GIRLS Season 4

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

So that started with a bang, I had been (not really) spoiled by some reaction news about the season 4 premiere having a confrontational sex scene, apaz there was some twitter storm about it blah blah. Spent the whole ep waiting for it, but it seems it was the first one and my imagination had been whipped into expecting something bigger. I found the intense awkwardness of some of the scenes in the earlier seasons more confrontational to watch.

Anyway I like how they are ripping the main character out of her niche and dumping her into a whole new land no doubt filled with people who aren't going to pander to her adorable neuroses like her social circle does. Then again maybe she'll just be meeting different cultures of neuroses like with the english chick, though that whips them into a competition atmosphere which is very de-pandering and we also know Hannah will lose because she has REAL neuroses accompanied by deep dorkiness and that will be her downfall against generational hipster neuroses.

She won't be cool enough in Iowa, I predict.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I'm sure that Allison was in an almost identical sex scene during her seminal live performance of Peter Pan a month back.

The shape of the oncoming season really depends if the camera is going to abandon New York.

Actually seeing those fuck ups cope with no Hannah will be revealing, was Hannah holding them back or is nothing going to stop them from being completely useless.

I really should have rewatched season 3, because I was quite lost by some of the crazy.

Although I did watch Tiny Furniture last week which is a roughcut try out by Lena trying to figure out how to make Girls.

 

[Aldo]

I loved season 3, so Season 4 has a bit to live up to, though with Gillian Jacobs having a recurring role this season I'm sure it will

I enjoyed the episode overall, expected more nudity than what we got (really HBO? That's nudity???) but was pleasantly surprised with how fun the episode was. Sure it was mostly set up for the season, and tidying up some of the threads from last season, but it was still a good start.

 

[Guy Gardener]

She wants to get rid of Adam?

He will explode.

Like Michael Douglas in Falling Down.

In the beginning, Adam did not want her, or a real girlfriend or having to live up to all the emotional commitments of having a girlfriend, but she pushed and pushed and pushed no matter how painful it was for both of them.

Hannah has jumped up and down on Adam until he fits into a tiny little box called "boyfriend" and now she's done with him, and whatever hulking wreck she leaves behind is consequentness to the heroic monologue in her head.

You see growing up, movies taught me that if you loved some one utterly, that the object of your affection would recognize that love, appreciate it, value it, and generate their own. It really was a hard lesson to see that real women can see a man who is completely in love with her and it doesn't mean anything, and she will pretend her best to act like she hasn't noticed for as long as possible.

(Friends. Not me. I'm too lizard like to be infatuated by a person.)

If Hannah didn't want him forever, then she shouldn't have hammered him into an ugly shape that only she could love.

Finding a boyfriend should not be like going to a second hand car-lot, but if we are capable of learning, we treat our next girlfriend like how our last girlfriend had always wanted to be treated.

Men who are incapable of learning actually do better, because some women like a challenge.

Long story short, too late, I feel sorry for Adam.

I don't really see him as a cutter, but maybe he'll jump off a building?

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I think he's more likely to kill someone by accident in a rage fit. His rage makes him very unpleasant. I liked how Hannah's mother said to her, " I don't want you to spend your whole life socializing him like a stray dog."

They are both hugely hard work. I wouldn't want to go out with either of them. I think Hannah may find the man world out there when she abandons Adam to be a lot less tolerant of her than he was.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Kristine Kochanski may have said...

"There's more to life than fantastic sex, eating cold pizza, and watching old movies in bed with you all weekend."

But she was wrong.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Season 4 episode 2.

Lena riding a bicycle is braver than any of her nude scenes to date.

She's just so foetal.

Her knees are brushing her ears while peddling.

Just horrific.

And then there's the usual wad of disgusting carthetisism about the emotions of distasteful people.

"Your body looks amazing! I haven't seen your pubic hair in ages!"

"Thanks! I just grew it back!"

This is an odd double standard I am not happy about. Hot gay men nude up around women and it's all copacetic, but attractive lesbians seem to quickly grasp for even more new layers of clothing on as soon as they see me coming.

Gay men are obviously more evolved.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Some people's sexuality is more based on exhibitionist attention that's all.

Anyway ep 2.. I thought I had fully grasped the depth of Hannah's oblivious self centeredness but seeing her pounce with such glee on the woman who critiqued her writing and declare the negatives were because the woman was a victim of domestic abuse uhh. My mouth dropped open, not at her self serving conclusion but at how triumphant she was.

That was a fun ep, I like Elijah. I suspect he is there for some bigger reason than he let on.

I am 100% into the dark haired "no one steals bikes" chick. 100%.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Chick? That was a dude. Um. (google google) Even after looking up facts and seeing that Desiree Akhavan was born a woman, I'm still 50/50 thinking that the character was cross dressing or transgendered even if the actress wasn't. What was that "I'm going to stop looking at you" line all about if the character was super square and inside the boundaries?

Is she wearing a wig?

I already downloaded the movie Desiree wrote/directed (Appropriate Behavior ) 5 days ago. I might watch it tonight.

Elijah was (arguably) the super camp male lead in The New Normal for 24 episodes, and probably why he abandoned Girls for a year thinking that he was on the next big thing that would drag America into the 20th century. Unfortunately Church groups lit their pitchforks and charged. Something about how Gays arn't allowed the little white girls.

Joel Mchale's character on Community said in the pilot of that show: "I understand “right” and “wrong” are slippery slopes that end with presidents who don’t believe dinosaurs existed. And I’ve understood since I was a kid that if I talked long enough, I could make anything true. So either I’m God or truth is relative, and in either case: booyah. "

The difference between Hannah and Jeff Winger is that Hannah does not know that she is full of shit and that Hannah does not have the verbal skills to change people's minds without taking her top off.

That being said, Jeff does take his shirt off a lot too.

But yes, I wanted to spend an entire roll of duct tap on Hannah when she decided that Logan was a survivor of assault. Is it possible that Hannah does not know what fiction is? That is sorta the argument put forward by one of her critics.

Maybe one day she'll just keep pushing some pencil and it will come out the other ear.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

It was "I'm going to break eye contact with you now" and I took it to be about the intensity of the dark haired one. Her hair is overly deep black, I guess it might be dyed and now I'm trying to remember who it was that seemed to be wearing a (terrible) wig on what show recently and everyone got upset about it.

WAIT it was in Continuum. The lead as a younger woman. Looked awful.

Maybe one day she'll just keep pushing some pencil and it will come out the other ear.

That's like super clever.

 

[Guy Gardener]

I was watching the final season of Alias a few weeks back and in there, the youthfulness of Rachel Nichols did not sit right with me. Too thin, innocent, naive and pig ignorant. I had to take a break from young Rachel Nichols and send some me time enjoying the real Rachel Nichols from the here and now, or the almost here and now since I queued up Continuum Season 3 to refresh before the next season springs itself upon me.

This has to be annoying when it happens in real time and you can't just skip ahead to the present like I just did. "I'm sorry, but you're too young for me to form a psychosensual obsession upon, please resubmit your application in a decade or so."

There was an episode of the final season of Fraser, where they started a story, which was told backwards through time, as each next chapter required seeing something that happened a year or two earlier, and these cast had these horrible acrylic wigs necessary to impersonate their younger selves. ####ing clever, but the wigs might as well have been made out of rubber.

Ha!

At the party, when Hannah met that drunk girl upset about her cheating boyfriend, the authority with which she said "Don't worry, I'm 25, so I know what I'm talking about" as if "twenty Five" was a superpower one might get from an irregular coloured chunk of Kryptonite.

Shouldn't we be trying to convert the uninitiated?

Or like Hannah are we smug in our own happy little bubble?

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

Well I tried to convert the uninitiated IRL but I was told by these friends "oh we watched a few eps but everyone in it is too young, you just can't relate to it".

I have always felt like every single age I've been from 3ish when the memories start solidifying onwards is still me now and totally accessible and not something that I passed through and am now over and onto something else.

EVERYONE SHOULD WATCH THIS SHOW IT IS FULL OF BOOBS AND OFTEN FUNNY!

And it is set in my favorite city setting and clever and you will feel better about yourself since everyone in it is seemingly more self absorbed than you are. You will feel like the most empathetic socially aware non-entitled super humble human ever.

And the acting is awesome and they mix it up, the eps change pace and stay fresh.

 

[Aldo]

Chick? That was a dude. Um. (google google) Even after looking up facts and seeing that Desiree Akhavan was born a woman, I'm still 50/50 thinking that the character was cross dressing or transgendered even if the actress wasn't. What was that "I'm going to stop looking at you" line all about if the character was super square and inside the boundaries?

Is she wearing a wig?

I already downloaded the movie Desiree wrote/directed (Appropriate Behavior ) 5 days ago. I might watch it tonight.

Elijah was (arguably) the super camp male lead in The New Normal for 24 episodes, and probably why he abandoned Girls for a year thinking that he was on the next big thing that would drag America into the 20th century. Unfortunately Church groups lit their pitchforks and charged. Something about how Gays arn't allowed the little white girls.

Joel Mchale's character on Community said in the pilot of that show: "I understand “right” and “wrong” are slippery slopes that end with presidents who don’t believe dinosaurs existed. And I’ve understood since I was a kid that if I talked long enough, I could make anything true. So either I’m God or truth is relative, and in either case: booyah. "

The difference between Hannah and Jeff Winger is that Hannah does not know that she is full of shit and that Hannah does not have the verbal skills to change people's minds without taking her top off.

That being said, Jeff does take his shirt off a lot too.

But yes, I wanted to spend an entire roll of duct tap on Hannah when she decided that Logan was a survivor of assault. Is it possible that Hannah does not know what fiction is? That is sorta the argument put forward by one of her critics.

Maybe one day she'll just keep pushing some pencil and it will come out the other ear.

All that talking of Joel McHale makes me want him to guest star on this show too. I mean we got Donald Glover in the first season and this season we're gonna get Gillian Jacobs, it only makes sense that McHale would be next. We would have got Jim Rash too but Glee stole him away. That last one is probably not true.

I really enjoyed this episode (I just watched it tonight). Hannah really does come off self centered and quite frankly a bit of a bitch when she's out of her element. At least when she's in New York she surrounds herself with people that are even more eccentric than she is.

I love that Elijah showed up, he's one of my favorite characters on the show and it looks like we'll be getting more of him as well.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

How long does this grad school deal in Iowa last? Assuming she doesn't run back to NYC because Adam ends up in hospital following an autoerotic asphyxiation episode could we expect to see her last out a year there, as in a season?

 

[Guy Gardener]

Okay, remind me why Soshanna didn't get a real graduation? After four years of "I'm a student with a real future you listful fuck ups, just you wait I'm going places" I'm not sure if she can cope with the lack of structure... She's going to turn into season one Hannah? So much promose and no follow through.

Oh? She just took bullshit courses in her final year to meet a prerequisit of credits not understanding that even bullshit courses require you to crack open the text book once. She failed "Glacialology." What the fuck is Glacialology? It has to be something other than the study of Glaciers? Oh? It isn't? Well it's still some sort of metaphor for how she fucked up her life and had to repeat her final year quickly in summer school.

I like Shoshanna maybe best because she's not supposed to get into trouble, she's the good girl, bt then somehow she gets it worse and there's never a get out of jail free card for poor Shoshanna.

 

[Guy Gardener]

How long does this grad school deal in Iowa last? Assuming she doesn't run back to NYC because Adam ends up in hospital following an autoerotic asphyxiation episode could we expect to see her last out a year there, as in a season?

The course is real.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iowa_Writers%27_Workshop

Graduates earn a Master of Fine Arts (postgraduate degree).

An MFA takes 2 - 3 years of (successful) post graduate study to get.

Hannah's version of reality may differ from our reality.

I really think Adam values his cum more than that.

Masturbation is weakness.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

He would definitely be going the DH Lawrence route on that subject!

I predict 2/3 a season of Iowa maladjustment followed by a crisis followed by wallowing in failure after she returns to NY.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Or the beginning of episode four is set four years after episode 3?

I fricking hate those uncalled for time-jumps becuase they completely diffuse built up tension and apprehension.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

They would be okay if they were real time jumps.

OMG let's donnie darko Hannah and change the whole series!!

 

[Guy Gardener]

You want Hannah to run afoul of a science fiction property?

Hmmm. What about Sliders?

In the decades that followed (stop me if you've heard this one), Hannah Horvath searched countess realities and met thousands of different Hannah Horvaths. However she never encountered a Hannah Horvath as deeply sad and worthless as herself. Her impossible search continues...