Garrett Wang

[Oddish]

Ok, @Guy Gardener ... your theory is that Harry's mistake in "Future's End" was a permanent career killer that both guaranteed and justified his long ensignhood... if that be the case, why is it never spoken of again?

- In "Future's End", Janeway immediately entrusts Harry with command of the bridge later in the episode.
- In "Before and After", Harry has seven years of service and full lieutenant rank, and that timeline includes "Future's End".
- In "The Disease", reference is made to his previous, exemplary service. The incident is not brought up.
- In "Nightingale", when Harry complains about being stuck at ensign, Janeway doesn't bring up the incident as explanation why. Indeed, she has no explanation, so she has to resort to accusation.
- And in "Shattered", Chakotay describes Harry as one of Voyager's best people. An officer with a career-killing mistake to contend with would not be so described.

So... nope. Not buying it.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Ok, @Guy Gardener ... your theory is that Harry's mistake in "Future's End" was a permanent career killer that both guaranteed and justified his long ensignhood... if that be the case, why is it never spoken of again?

- In "Future's End", Janeway immediately entrusts Harry with command of the bridge later in the episode.
- In "Before and After", Harry has seven years of service and full lieutenant rank, and that timeline includes "Future's End".
- In "The Disease", reference is made to his previous, exemplary service. The incident is not brought up.
- In "Nightingale", when Harry complains about being stuck at ensign, Janeway doesn't bring up the incident as explanation why. Indeed, she has no explanation, so she has to resort to accusation.
- And in "Shattered", Chakotay describes Harry as one of Voyager's best people. An officer with a career-killing mistake to contend with would not be so described.

So... nope. Not buying it.

By that point he's already an untrustworthy duplicate they humour for his delusions of humanity.

If I gave you 70 atom bombs and the ability to time travel, could I trust you not to blow up cities, or planets or the entire universe on a whim?

 

[Akiraprise]

More seriously, this is the one topic where comments, complaints, theories, assumptions, and general discussion of that subject is considered appropriate. So if you don't want to participate, there's hundreds of other active topics on this site where no discussion of the number of pips on Harry's collar will occur. Don't let the metaphorical door hit you on the way out.

The last 20 pages of this thread can be summed up thusly:

Oddish you are, of course, not the arbitrator of who can and cannot post in threads, winky not withstanding. Plus I am hard pressed to disagree with DonIago. As with most threads that have gone on for an extended period of time the conversation has ebbed and flowed but I feel the original topic has been overtaken by a more general discussion on Trek for which we have a dedicated forum so I am locking this one down shortly after folks get their final points in. Thank you.

 

[Oddish]

Forgive me, but I was under the impression that threads of this nature were intended to ensure that people didn't bleed this topic (or others like it) into other forums. As one of your fellow moderators reminded me, most people aren't interested. By having a topic on the subject permanently open, whenever someone mentions Harry Kim in another forum, they can be diverted to this one.

Well, so be it. I expect someone will start up a new topic on the subject soon enough. People are going to pummel the deceased equine, one way or another.

And @Guy Gardener ... if I had the ability to time travel, I wouldn't need even one atomic bomb.