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Friendship & Name Calling

I guess I'm just looking at it from my perspective. She's told me to check out movies in the past, and I have. Why? Because it's just a movie. It's maybe 90-120 minutes of my life, and if my friend thinks I'll like the movie, then I might even end up with a new favorite for my collection. If not, no big deal but at least I gave it a shot. I just don't know what's so hard about that.

"I've done this for you; therefore, you should do the same back to me".
Nice but life doesn't work this way. Sorry.
What happens is that the more you push, the more stubborn the other person will be. And...the next time, she will be more cautious for fear of another of these 'give me your logical reason' encounters.

When I was first married, I tried to get my husband to eat peas. Who doesn't like peas? Peas are nice, peas are boring, peas are good for you.
Nope nope nope nope.
It was when he said to me: I'm an adult and if I don't want to eat peas, I don't have to.
And he was totally right.

Your friend may very well be missing out on an interesting piece of music or great movie, but you have the capacity to give her an even greater gift: respecting her wishes.
 
I agree I might have made a big deal out of it but...a friend calls you an idiot and you don't expect an apology? I don't know about that.

Well my best friend and i constantly insult each other. Of course, we both know we're kidding and don't mean it. And to me, idiot is such a mild insult that it doesn't warrant worrying about it. You should have called her an idiot right back. :p
 
Just got a text message from her (she's with family right now and couldn't call)

"Dude don't even trip about last nite, seriously we were both buttheads so there's nothing to apologize for."

So, seems like its all good now. :)

I agree I might have made a big deal out of it but...a friend calls you an idiot and you don't expect an apology? I don't know about that.

Well my best friend and i constantly insult each other. Of course, we both know we're kidding and don't mean it. And to me, idiot is such a mild insult that it doesn't warrant worrying about it. You should have called her an idiot right back. :p

Oh she and I are constantly mean to each other in a joking way. We're the two least politically correct people we know. I make fun of her being hispanic, she makes fun of me for being white...its our dynamic. What got me about what she said last night was she just obviously didn't mean it in a joking way.
 
Well huzzah! Personally, i think perhaps you over analyzed this whole thing. OK with your male friends, do you trade insults?
 
Depending on the guys, yeah. I'm generally closer to my female friends, and her in particular. She and I trade insults all the time, but it's always, like I said, in a joking manner. It's never been during an actual heated argument.
 
Well that would be different i understand that. Honestly, if you guys get into a heated argument again (hopefully you don't) and name calling happens, i wouldn't worry about it.
 
I thought this thread was going to be about calling your friends names, like I call my friends "motherfucker" or "bitch" or "asshole" quote frequently in jest, and they do the same. It's a guy thing. :)

And yes, I agree the OP is overreacting. She didn't need to give him an apology, she certainly doesn't think you are a full-time idiot.
 
Don't ever move to Australia if being called 'an idiot' upsets you. Here who would have been called a wanker,a prick or even a cunt.

Actually for many Australian men 'cunt' is a term of endearment that is used for their male friends - such as "What are you up to, you cunt?".
 
Ahh, language differences. Here, that's the one word i would never call someone, unless that person truly deserved to be called that.
 
When I was first married, I tried to get my husband to eat peas. Who doesn't like peas? Peas are nice, peas are boring, peas are good for you.
Nope nope nope nope.
It was when he said to me: I'm an adult and if I don't want to eat peas, I don't have to.
And he was totally right.

Your friend may very well be missing out on an interesting piece of music or great movie, but you have the capacity to give her an even greater gift: respecting her wishes.

This is pretty much it.
 
I know it's all over and done with now, but I'm surprised nobody's picked up on this:

Long story short, she used a really bad anology (comparing movies to cigarettes) and when I didn't see the validity of her comparison, she said "youre such an idiot"

This would seem to be the biggest over-reaction of all time. I honestly don't think that what she said makes a whole lot of sense. You're right, Flux, that's the worst analogy ever. Then again, I readily admit that I don't have a clue what women are thinking in situations like this. My mother would do the same thing, over-react and call my father or me various names for the smallest things. I just don't get it.

When I was first married, I tried to get my husband to eat peas. Who doesn't like peas? Peas are nice, peas are boring, peas are good for you.
Nope nope nope nope.
It was when he said to me: I'm an adult and if I don't want to eat peas, I don't have to.
And he was totally right.

You should have started singing to him...

All we are saying,
Is give peas a chance.

:D
 
I'm just curious as to why she doesn't want to and ask for a logical reason why. I do understand though that she doesn't want to have to give an answer every time, if ever, but that's just how I operate...needing a logical reason for things.
But movies and music are not about logic, my friend. They trigger an emotional response. It is fitting that, especially from a woman, the refusal to discover them comes from emotionally-based prejudices that would be difficult or embarrassing to spell out logically. If you asked me to watch "The Sopranos", I'd say, "No, I don't like mob shows. Those guys are just too icky for me." In spite of all the acclaim.

To me, she just seems really stubborn and closed minded when it comes to things like movies and music, and all I want to do is share things with her that I like that I think she'd like too.
If she really likes you, she should enjoy watching and listening "through you". Meaning, in your company.
I once had a man friend who refused to discover my music suggestions outside of my presence. He needed to perceive my emotional response so as to construct/heighten his experience. (I confess there aren't many like him out there. He is a bit of a psychic. A bit crazy, too. Hypersensitive and a black hole-like pain in the butt.)

Anyway, it does make a big difference if someone (whose opinion) you care about is watching/listening with you.
Your friend doesn't seem to have much empathy with you. :(

Hah, and no we definitely aren't married...though sometimes it feels like we are. I don't know if it would work, she actually watched Back to the Future at my request and...said she thought it was lame. :scream:
Maybe compromises are as much about accepting to share thigs as about accepting there are things you cannot share.


she used a really bad anology (comparing movies to cigarettes) and when I didn't see the validity of her comparison, she said "youre such an idiot"
This would seem to be the biggest over-reaction of all time. I honestly don't think that what she said makes a whole lot of sense. You're right, Flux, that's the worst analogy ever.
I guess that's just the best she could come up with under pressure. I'm beginning to think guys give girls too much credit sometimes. :alienblush:
Then again, I readily admit that I don't have a clue what women are thinking in situations like this. My mother would do the same thing, over-react and call my father or me various names for the smallest things. I just don't get it.
Must be a trait of character. Annoying, and should be better controlled. Maybe the person operates on a different scale that needs to be interpreted. It's like translation.
At any rate, one shouldn't overreact to an overreaction.
People shouldn't get too comfortable with each other either, though. There must remain some respect, in the long run.


And sometimes, all one needs is more time... I know I've had to learn that.
 
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