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Equilibrium (2002 Christian Bale movie)

I didn't know he was Scottish. Imagine! There's only about 500 of us.

:confused: Okay? I wasn't posting that to inform you of the fact that he was Scottish (I wasn't even responding to you), merely substituting something for not knowing his name at that particular moment.
 
Are you getting touchy? I was impressed. That's all. I always thought people could, like, jump in when they felt like saying something on this board and stuff.
 
I've read a lot about this film and having saw it myself for the first time about a week ago and I must admit, it wasn't bad.

Generally from what I've seen many people don't like the film and the fact that it's had many bad reveiws (except for IMDB). But there are many things I liked about this film, even more so the infulences that are blatently obvious in this film (Brave New World and Fahrenheit 451 are the two I noted).

Sure many people can't get on with the idea of 'Gun Kata', but I think it works really well and in my opinion was something brave to do on screen, and something I've never seen before. Also the character John (Bale) I liked a lot, normally in this sort of a movie we already know who our protagonist is. Granted we do already know he is the title character, and everybody knows eventually he will fight for good, but I loved the fact that what we're seeing is the transformation of the human mind and the development of very basic human emotions.

Also the final battle between John and Andrew Brandt (Taye Diggs) was amazing. Simply because we've got John who is labeled as the best of the Clerics, and Andrew who, when fighting John earlier in the film seemed to be able to keep up with him. I found it amazing that within 5 seconds the fight was over.

It's worth the watch.
 
Are you getting touchy? I was impressed. That's all. I always thought people could, like, jump in when they felt like saying something on this board and stuff.

No, I was just confused by your comment. I thought you were being sarcastic because I was pointing out the obvious (that he was Scottish) or something. I misunderstood what you meant, no harm intended. Sorry.
 
Nope I didn't know. I always get him (Angus McFadyen) confused with Marton Csokas, or however it's spelt, who was in Aeon Flux.
 
I enjoyed the film. It wasn't particularly amazing, but it's a fun film to have in the background while you're doing chores or something. I do have to say that the puppy scene was classic. Need to manipulate emotions? Anyone got a puppy? :p
 
This keeps getting repeated on Sky all the time, nearly every night its either on Sci-Fi or Film4
I watch bits of it now again, mainly just because I love a bit of Bale. I kinda like it, but only because it's so bad it's good.
Like this bit, ridiculous, yet hilarious
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=79m5YmLLWvw&feature=channel_page
"What?! Oh shit, shoot him shoot him!" :lol:

I mean it has Brian Connelly in it for chrissakes!


Anyone taking the film seriously and not just as a fun, dumb movie, I would question their taste in cinema
 
How is this film, or the Gun Kata within, anything at all like the Matrix?

Stop reading the box, people. That quote was from an idiot.
 
I admit I wondered if Gun Kata would actually work IRL... :lol:
Sure, there's no reason such a discipline couldn't be developed.

Would it actually stop you from getting shot by twenty guys? No. Not even from one guy who has any clue as to what he's doing (and you'd probably fare even worse against someone who didn't know what they were doing).

In other words, it'd basically be a meditative art rather than anything that would help you even remotely in a real fight. But there's nothing inherently wrong with learning various poses and postures that lower your profile and thus your chances of being shot while optimizing your own attack posture. It's just that the improvement would be miniscule at best for the former, and not much better for the latter.

In other words, Equilibrium's gun kata would be as close to a "real" gun kata as most Chinese kung fu movies are to real kung fu.
 
This is the stupidest movie that I love.

It's like that dumbshit friend of yours that keeps asking for money and despite knowing that he's going to blow it all on meaningless crap, you give it to him anyway because he's just so much damn fun to hang around with.

Okay, it's nothing like that, but a dude gets his face cut off. That's fucking Oscar worthy*, right there.




* If the Oscars were run by a consortium of awesome.

After the fight you can see the guys slice of face on the white floor. Neat.
 
This keeps getting repeated on Sky all the time, nearly every night its either on Sci-Fi or Film4
I watch bits of it now again, mainly just because I love a bit of Bale. I kinda like it, but only because it's so bad it's good.
Like this bit, ridiculous, yet hilarious
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=79m5YmLLWvw&feature=channel_page
"What?! Oh shit, shoot him shoot him!" :lol:

I mean it has Brian Connelly in it for chrissakes!


Anyone taking the film seriously and not just as a fun, dumb movie, I would question their taste in cinema

that clip proves that the clerics weren't all on their prozium. 'oh shit shoot him, shoot him!' is such an emotional reaction. as is 'fuck!' just before getting a shotgun in the face.
 
I just watched this 2002 film (starring Christian Bale) this morning, and wondered what people's thoughts on it are?
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0238380/


The main reason I watched it was for Bale, and indeed he did make it watchable enough. Although not the worst film I've ever seen, it was a little dodgy I thought.
Kinda felt like a blatant combination/rip-off of 1984 and Fahrenheit 451 made by someone heavily on speed who's seen The Matrix about 500 times. And the whole thing had this straight-to-video vibe about it all.

The fight scenes were more funny than anything, being way OTT, like Bale taking on about 50 soldiers all with machine guns, whilst he himself just had two little handguns, etc. For a second I thought I was watching one of Patrick Bateman's fantasies or something :)


Never mind destroying all that art though, the worst part was when all those little puppies got gunned down! Awwwww!

I'm also surprised by it's fairly high score on IMDB- 7.8/10
Hmm, I wouldn't say its that good


Thoughts?

I love that movie. I like the fight scenes. I understand movies are unrealistic. If it was real, he would have died badly and been discovered by everyone in the first 5 minutes. I really like the scene with the puppy.

right, if it was real why watch a movie at all. when I watch a movie I want to escape from reality, if just for a little while :)
 
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