What I loved about those movies was that tube train....... And I remember reading that such a train would be possible.
Disco Season 3, "Genesis II", and "Andromeda"
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What I loved about those movies was that tube train....... And I remember reading that such a train would be possible.
I was a young adolescent (maybe even younger than that) when I first saw it, and I mostly remember Mariette Hartley's double-navel midriff.
I read somewhere that Rodenberry made a point to show bare midriffs and navels in Genesis II partly in order to "spite" (after the fact) the NBC censors on Star Trek who usually took issue with visible navels.
Maybe that's where Elon Musk got the hyperloop idea.
I think you might be right. The trains in those movies used mag lev to keep the car inside the center of the round tube. They used the same idea on Space 1999 and Elon Musk uses Culture ship names for his spacecraft so it's safe to say he gets inspiration from scifi.
I don’t want the Federation to fall. Not now, not ever.
It basically makes all of existing Trek worthless. If the Federation is destined to fall, what’s the point of anything? Even the Pike series we all want to see, would be all for nothing.
The universe will eventually suffer a heat death. Does that make life pointless?
But yes, the point of Andromeda was they rebuilt the Federation.
That said, DSC will have a hell of a lot of explaining to do if it wants us to believe that a Daniels-level Federation could ever be destroyed...I mean, how could a Federation that has absolutely mastered time travel, ever be wiped out?
Thanos snap?
I said this earlier. No institution lasts forever. Eventually cracks will start to form and widen given enough time and most institutions fall or change.
No, because we will all be dead and gone long before that happens.
In Andromeda's case, that didn't work out too well, did it? IIRC, the "new Commonwealth" was a dismal failure, and died a quick death.
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So you can understand why no one would want the same thing to happen to the Federation....
....right?
Presumably, it would be slightly less of a dismal failure.
Hope springs eternal.
With Michael Burnham heading up things, of course it'll be far more successful than any creation of Dylan Hunt.Presumably, it would be slightly less of a dismal failure.
Again, Daniels erased his entire future himself in "Shockwave" by removing Archer from the timeline. How does such an insistution fall? Very easily it would seem.
Found my new band's name.......Mariette Hartley's Double Navels
You'd think there'd be a time whammy to protect vital historical personages.
Mind you, they could bring Mark Twain to the future and remember him so the TNG are apparently better at it.
They didn’t exactly make it clear which side was the good guys, Craft didn’t come off as that invested in the war seeing as he was conscripted and not exactly acting like it was a major threat to his home.
Could have just been the equivalent of one of the Federation’s minor brushfire conflicts over territory from the TNG era.
Supposedly the first trailer for season 3 is coming this weekend at NYCC, according to Treksphere. Perhaps our questions will be answered...
I think reworking Andromeda into Discovery Season 3 would be pretty neat. I gave up on Andromeda before the end, after it became a Dylan Hunt (Sorbo)-love fest. From the beginning though, the show never had the budget, writing, or acting (Sorbo again, but not he's not alone here) to match it's ambitious ideas. But that being said, still love the idea of the Nietzscheans (Augments) and the Magog (fully organic Borg) and wish we had gotten them, and the other species and ideas the show couldn't realize or fully realize in a better show. Discovery has that budget and production values.
I don't know if this has been brought up already, but I wonder if Discovery would be able to use or work in the rejected Star Trek: Federation idea from Bryan Singer and Trek Lit. author Geoffrey Throne. Seems like they could use some of that to flesh out the future the Discovery has been flung into. Same with the cartoon idea, Star Trek: Final Frontier.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Federation
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Final_Frontier
I don't know if this has been brought up already, but I wonder if Discovery would be able to use or work in the rejected Star Trek: Federation idea from Bryan Singer and Trek Lit. author Geoffrey Throne. Seems like they could use some of that to flesh out the future the Discovery has been flung into. Same with the cartoon idea, Star Trek: Final Frontier.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Federation
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek:_Final_Frontier
The interesting thing from ENT - "Shockwave":
http://www.chakoteya.net/Enterprise/28.htm
^^^
So even here it's implied that while "The Federation" was revered, it no longer existed in Daniels 31st century.
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Just because there was a monument built to commemorate the Federation, doesn't mean that said Federation no longer exists.
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By that logic, no life is worth living.
It basically makes all of existing Trek worthless. If the Federation is destined to fall, what’s the point of anything? Even the Pike series we all want to see, would be all for nothing.
The lives it benefited? The knowledge it shared. The Federation should eventually get replaced anyway. The Klingons should never join the federation, they might join a successor organization.
That said, DSC will have a hell of a lot of explaining to do if it wants us to believe that a Daniels-level Federation could ever be destroyed...I mean, how could a Federation that has absolutely mastered time travel, ever be wiped out?
I imagine a society that developed such technology was destroyed because it had done such things and perhaps deservedly so.
Mind you, I view the Fall of the Federation like the Fall of the Republic. It falls in Star Wars to be rebuilt.