Did Picard get "punished" after disobeying orders in First Contact?

[The Rock]

He was ordered to not get involved in the Borg's second attempted invasion of Earth but he got involved anyway and thanks to him and the Enterprise, the Borg were defeated yet again. Without the Enterprise there the Borg definitely would've won that space battle and would've started assimilating earth.

After the events of First Contact, did Picard get "punished" the same way that Kirk got "punished" after saving the earth in Star Trek IV? Basically, just a slap on the wrist and actually rewarded somehow since he saved the earth once again?

 

[NCC-73515]

Demoted to Commander for insubordination, then promoted to Captain for saving history.

 

[Peach Wookiee]

I suspect he was able to argue properly with Temporal Investigations. So, no problem.

 

[Vger23]

Demoted to Commander for insubordination, then promoted to Captain for saving history.

This, more than likely, is precisely what transpired.

 

[Jeyl]

He was punished. How else would you explain why the Enterprise was kept out of the Dominion War throughout its entirety? After all, the admiral’s fear of Picard becoming an unstable element was spot on. If it hadn’t been for a 21st Century woman to talk Picard down, everyone on the Enterprise, and possibly Earth would be assimilated. We didn’t have a Lily around in the 24th century.

 

[David cgc]

Due to the butterfly effect, when they returned to the 24th century, they learned that history had been changed that the Enterprise had been ordered to lead the fight against the Borg cube from the start, and was actually destroyed in the Typhon sector, so everyone was very surprised by their return.

 

[DonIago]

Picard could have received a formal reprimand or such, much as Worf did after he killed Duras.

 

[USS Belmont]

I think someone pointed out some time ago that Picard must be facing a court martial after every movie. GEN - For the loss of his ship, FC - For disobeying a direct order from Starfleet Command, INS - For disobeying a direct order from a superior officer on the field, NEM - For extensive damage to his ship and a board of inquiry for the loss for a senior officer directly under his command. Yet there was never a word on any of this. There was never any consequences for Picard for any of his actions in the movies.

 

[DonIago]

Boards of Inquiry almost certainly, but it could be that they then determined that there was no need to convene a court martial.

GEN - Picard wasn't in command of his ship when it was lost.
FC - Under the circumstances he likely just got a slap on the wrist.
INS - I don't have good answers here.
NEM - Under the circumstances I don't see that Picard did anything to merit a court martial here, unless there's something I'm not remembering.

 

[Qonundrum]

Was Data when he disobeyed orders on the Sutherland?

At least other examples took their material seriously, even with Data. FC just used the scene for nothing more than a comedic gag and not in a way that had any depth (even comedy can still make certain moments work... STFC just doesn't.) Kirk's era, by far, did the trope of disobeying orders for greater good and making it all feel authentic - and neither rushed because the episode ends in 4 minutes, nor used as the butt of a joke.

 

[Qonundrum]

He was punished. How else would you explain why the Enterprise was kept out of the Dominion War throughout its entirety?

Because they couldn't get the 1701-E crew, who run the Federation's most powerful ship/flagship of all things, back for teeny tiny telly? DS9 needed to hold its own while 1701-EZ was off chasing dust bunnies anyway. All while juggling two TV series while also scripting out movies.

After all, the admiral’s fear of Picard becoming an unstable element was spot on.

100% correct. The movie was contriving way too much...

And while Red Letter Media and others manage to point out plenty of faults in the movie that hadn't aged well, or were obvious enough at the time to anyone in the theater who wasn't cheering "WOOHOO YEAH!" while drooling simultaneously, but nobody's going to catch them all in one viewing... there were moments that took me out of the movie at the time as well. Good direction, but the old adage on cosmetic goop on porcine lifeforms destined to be bacon and ham... mmm, sausage...

If it hadn’t been for a 21st Century woman to talk Picard down, everyone on the Enterprise, and possibly Earth would be assimilated. We didn’t have a Lily around in the 24th century.

Only because Troi was blitzing her brain with booze in those other scenes to help risk total defeat? Sheesh, even Sulu and Chekov were given better material in STV TFF... had she been around, she would have said the same stuff, only not as harshly. Then again, Troi was often scripted poorly, but on the flip side we get Alfre Woodard, who steals the show with rather a terrific performance. Works great along Steward's Ahabing it up in a quaint role reversal of "Moby Dick" yet it's amazing this was never ever an issue before; not even an inkling of stewing in previous episodes where it would have made more sense. (All we got was Guinan doing a 180 way too quickly, but that's another story.) Great, now the Borg are on the whale's side?! That's kooky...

 

[Jeyl]

Because they couldn't get the 1701-E crew, who run the Federation's most powerful ship/flagship of all things, back for teeny tiny telly? DS9 needed to hold its own while 1701-EZ was off chasing dust bunnies anyway. All while juggling two TV series while also scripting out movies.

Why are you talking about stuff that goes on behind the scenes? I'm talking about 'in-universe' stuff. I was initially going to use the moment from Star Trek: Generations as the #1 excuse as to why Picard wasn't allowed to join the Dominion War. You know? That moment when Picard wanted to bring his bartender to help him fist-fight Soran when he could have literally gone anywhere else at any time? That's how dumb Picard is when it comes to fighting bad guys.

 

[Paul755]

Probably not, but they would have if he told them he forgot to clean up the wreckage site in the arctic.