confusedmatthew's DS9 season seven review
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As bad as Voyager? Yeah right.
It made me laugh (and I mean that in a good way). I don't agree that season 7 was as bad as Voyager, but he was right about Dukat's sudden blaming of Ziyal's death on Sisko. I know Dukat was crazy, but in that case the craziness followed the demands of the plot a little too obviously.
I laughed how he without any words commented on Vic Fontaine -
Seriously I rolled my eyes when I´ve watched "Tears of the prophets" for the first time. Sure, there were some good moments, like Damar´s and Weyoun´s remark about gods but actual story was one big convultance and cheese.
Seriously I rolled my eyes when I´ve watched "Tears of the prophets" for the first time. Sure, there were some good moments, like Damar´s and Weyoun´s remark about gods but actual story was one big convultance and cheese.
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Damn that Joyce DeWitt!
Thanks for the heads-up, entertaining as ever.
Ezri II
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Well ... other then picking on Ezri Dax I really did not see anything about Season 7. It was funny, but get real and stop smoking crack
Every bit as insane as his last "DS9 review". This guy's 'reviews' belong in a MU where total insanity reigns supreme.
His point is correct that Dukat blaming Sisko instead of Damar for Ziyal's death is shoddy writing. That's all tied into the fubaring of Dukat, which everyone knows is a major mistake. But screwing up one thing is not nearly enough to say the entire show was as bad as Voyager.
His point is correct that Dukat blaming Sisko instead of Damar for Ziyal's death is shoddy writing. That's all tied into the fubaring of Dukat, which everyone knows is a major mistake. But screwing up one thing is not nearly enough to say the entire show was as bad as Voyager.
Well, it´s only first part of a long review.
Part 2 is up - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUGxisKfkH4
I don´t agree with some points but he still makes a lot of sense. See it for yourselves.
I don´t agree with some points but he still makes a lot of sense. See it for yourselves.
Same here. I don't agree with a lot of his points either, but I like how he sets forth his argument. I was surprised when I found out I killed thirty minutes by watching his other reviews.
I agree with him about Jadzia being obnoxious and no loss to the show.
I agree with him about her death being very poorly done. RDM admitted in an interview with IGN that they had a much better plan for having Dukat brutally execute her but Berman wouldn't let them, so they were forced to put that silly death in there that doesn't work. But it is what it is, so that's a fair criticism.
Dukat was talking about Sisko not having any more direct divine intervention from the wormhole aliens; not that the Bajorans would stop believing in them. He seems to have misinterpreted Dukat's comments about that, and then made a mountain out of a molehill about it.
He screams: "The Prophets have absolutely nothing to do with how Sisko manages himself in the War" --- yet they saved the entire AQ a little while back with their divine intervention. I'd support him attacking that for being poorly-done, but attacking Dukat's comment and overlooking that by saying the wormhole aliens have no relevance to the Sisko's performance in the war doesn't work. He is also overlooking the visions from them that guided Sisko's actions.
It's hilarious how 98% of his 'Season 7' review is talking about a single Season 6 episode. Really, this isn't a Season 7 review. It's Tears of the Prophets review. Both part I and part II.
I wonder what percentage of part III will be talking about Tears of the Prophets too. LOL
A proper review would be covering all the angles of DS9, not just the wormhole alien angle.
I agree with him about her death being very poorly done. RDM admitted in an interview with IGN that they had a much better plan for having Dukat brutally execute her but Berman wouldn't let them, so they were forced to put that silly death in there that doesn't work. But it is what it is, so that's a fair criticism.
Dukat was talking about Sisko not having any more direct divine intervention from the wormhole aliens; not that the Bajorans would stop believing in them. He seems to have misinterpreted Dukat's comments about that, and then made a mountain out of a molehill about it.
He screams: "The Prophets have absolutely nothing to do with how Sisko manages himself in the War" --- yet they saved the entire AQ a little while back with their divine intervention. I'd support him attacking that for being poorly-done, but attacking Dukat's comment and overlooking that by saying the wormhole aliens have no relevance to the Sisko's performance in the war doesn't work. He is also overlooking the visions from them that guided Sisko's actions.
It's hilarious how 98% of his 'Season 7' review is talking about a single Season 6 episode. Really, this isn't a Season 7 review. It's Tears of the Prophets review. Both part I and part II.
I wonder what percentage of part III will be talking about Tears of the Prophets too. LOL
A proper review would be covering all the angles of DS9, not just the wormhole alien angle.
His review largely seems to be going a route of attacking the Bajoran religion aspect of the show that was a bigger deal in season 7 than in the other seasons. I will agree that the whole red eyes and evil voice thing was silly, but other than that I enjoyed the conflict between the Prophets and the Pah-Wraiths. The culmination in the Fire Caves was rushed and needed to be more epic, but I still think that the religion arc made the show richer than just a plain old war series.
He also dislikes the Vic Fontane aspect of the show (obviously) and a few years ago I would have agreed with him. But when I bought DS9 on DVD some years back and watched the show all the way through, I found myself liking some of his episodes. His speech to Nog in It's Only a Paper Moon was worth having him on the show as far as I'm concerned.
So I respect his views, I just don't happen to agree with him.
He also dislikes the Vic Fontane aspect of the show (obviously) and a few years ago I would have agreed with him. But when I bought DS9 on DVD some years back and watched the show all the way through, I found myself liking some of his episodes. His speech to Nog in It's Only a Paper Moon was worth having him on the show as far as I'm concerned.
So I respect his views, I just don't happen to agree with him.
Confused Matthew is very entertaining. Some points I agree with, some I don't. I enjoy reading intelligent reviews, especially those of Tim Lynch, despite the fact that they can be overly harsh. Although Season 7 was not as good as Seasons 5 and 6, it certainly wasn't bad and was definitely a zillion times better than TNG's Season 7.
Part 3 is finally up - http://www.confusedmatthew.com/Star-Trek:-Deep-Space-Nine-Season-7.php
*sigh* He was spot on about Voyager, but now he can't even get basic philosophy right. 
Dark is not the opposite of light, it is the absence of it. Cold is not the opposite of heat, it is the absence of it. Atheism is not the opposite of religion, it is the absence of it. Anti-theism is the opposite of theism.
And I pretty much disagreed with everything else he (and Stan) said too. It is a pity, I was hoping he would focus more on evil Dukat and how quickly they managed to win the war in the final episode. Those are valid complaints, these ones not so much.
Dark is not the opposite of light, it is the absence of it. Cold is not the opposite of heat, it is the absence of it. Atheism is not the opposite of religion, it is the absence of it. Anti-theism is the opposite of theism.
And I pretty much disagreed with everything else he (and Stan) said too. It is a pity, I was hoping he would focus more on evil Dukat and how quickly they managed to win the war in the final episode. Those are valid complaints, these ones not so much.
I disagree with him saying Ezri is more annoying than Jadzia, although I can see how Ezri can be very annoying too. However, I found the monotone, robotic, smug acting and bland, completely generic & totally uninteresting writing behind Jadzia to be far more annoying. cm says that Jadzia has one interesting characteristic because of the symbiont giving her multiple lives; but she didn't really, because the symbiont never amounted to anything other than Jadzia blandly saying "Curzon did this, Curzon did that" which was always a boring, pointless, waste of screen-time. Jadzia was a failure of a character on a writing level too, and although also deeply flawed, Ezri was at least an improvement in that regard too.
cm neglects that the reason the PahWraith cult got popular was because of Dukat's charming & charismatic personality and expert manipulation skills.
When cm calls FBTS "one of the worst episodes ever made of Star Trek or anything else on television", I'm forced to wonder if anything he is saying is serious. That statement is completely batty.
Again, cm spends almost all his review time harping on the Bajoran/wormhole alien/PahWraith angle whilst entirely neglecting all the other great things that DS9 has going on simultaneously.
cm neglects that the reason the PahWraith cult got popular was because of Dukat's charming & charismatic personality and expert manipulation skills.
When cm calls FBTS "one of the worst episodes ever made of Star Trek or anything else on television", I'm forced to wonder if anything he is saying is serious. That statement is completely batty.
Again, cm spends almost all his review time harping on the Bajoran/wormhole alien/PahWraith angle whilst entirely neglecting all the other great things that DS9 has going on simultaneously.
When cm calls FBTS "one of the worst episodes ever made of Star Trek or anything else on television", I'm forced to wonder if anything he is saying is serious. That statement is completely batty.
FBTS is one of those episodes that I love and hate at the same time.
Yes, there is still prejudice and racism, and I have been on the receiving end of it, but at the same time the episode goes out of its way to point out that SISKO IS BLACK. Whereas before, he was just a Starfleet officer doing his job and a good parent to his son.
Kinda like what Richard Biggs dug so much about his role of Dr. Stephan Franklin. Not once in Babylon 5 is a big deal ever made about his ethnicity. There is no obligatory episode on the subject. He is a doctor and a person with all the flaws that come with being alive.
FBTS is well-written, well-acted and an interesting take on what could and could not be accepted in 1950s America. Yet it also seems to be a masturbatory fest pointing out how brave DS9 is for having a black actor in the lead role. Whereas, I feel much more is said and done by seeing Sisko do his job and raise his son.
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