Carey Mulligan wins Best Actress at BAFTAS

[Asbo Zaprudder]

I thought the Greeks were remembered for their urns.

ETA: We remember the Greeks for lots of things -- their philosophers, their additions to our language, their mythology, and what writing, including plays, that survive.

We don't remember their luvvies, mutual back-patting festivals, giggly girlies, or late-life conversions from socialist worker spartacists to prostrating themselves ridiculously in front of potential future monarchs.

... and yes, I am old, cynical and jaded.

 

[Cutter John]

How about 'Being a GOOD actor is hard'?

Sad to say just about any idiot who can read a script can be an 'actor' in a lousy sitcom or Mtv reality crapfest.

 

[Sci]

I thought the Greeks were remembered for their urns.

ETA: We remember the Greeks for lots of things -- their philosophers, their additions to our language, their mythology, and what writing, including plays, that survive.

Yes. And quite a bit of that is related to their art.

We don't remember their luvvies, mutual back-patting festivals,

Actually, we do. Most of the surviving ancient Greek plays were produced at theatrical competitions and were the winners of prizes. In a very real sense, the ancient Greek equivalents of the Tonys are the things by which we remember them.

giggly girlies,

Oh, I dunno. There's a fair amount of what we might today call giggly-girl-y-ness in Aristophanes's Lysistrata.

or late-life conversions from socialist worker spartacists to prostrating themselves ridiculously in front of potential future monarchs.

I don't even know what the hell you're talking about here.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

or late-life conversions from socialist worker spartacists to prostrating themselves ridiculously in front of potential future monarchs.

I don't even know what the hell you're talking about here.

Then why comment about the BAFTAs if you didn't watch it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Gpj8JdUfY

They edited out the bit where the former Trotskyite nears bends double in front of Prince William.

 

[Sci]

or late-life conversions from socialist worker spartacists to prostrating themselves ridiculously in front of potential future monarchs.

I don't even know what the hell you're talking about here.

Then why comment about the BAFTAs if you didn't watch it?

I didn't comment about the BAFTAs. I commented about your inaccurate claim that all acting requires is that one remember one's lines and not knock over the scenery.

ETA:

Although, for the record, Prince William is not a potential future monarch. He is a future monarch. Unless he dies before his grandmother or father leave the throne or he refuses to take the throne, he is guaranteed to become King of the United Kingdom, as his father is the heir apparent and cannot produce any future issue capable of supplanting him on the royal line of succession. It's a done deal -- it's going to be King Charles then King William. (Well, they might each take a different royal name upon ascending to the throne, but the point remains.)

It's only with William's successor that there become ambiguity, due to the question of whether or not he will produce an heir.

 

[Nerys Myk]

or late-life conversions from socialist worker spartacists to prostrating themselves ridiculously in front of potential future monarchs.

I don't even know what the hell you're talking about here.

Then why comment about the BAFTAs if you didn't watch it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75Gpj8JdUfY

They edited out the bit where the former Trotskyite nears bends double in front of Prince William.

Was she supposed to pull a gun, blow out the Prince's brains and shout "Workers unite"?

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

I don't even know what the hell you're talking about here.

Then why comment about the BAFTAs if you didn't watch it?

I didn't comment about the BAFTAs. I commented about your inaccurate claim that all acting requires is that one remember one's lines and not knock over the scenery.

ETA:

Although, for the record, Prince William is not a potential future monarch. He is a future monarch. Unless he dies before his grandmother or father leave the throne or he refuses to take the throne, he is guaranteed to become King of the United Kingdom, as his father is the heir apparent and cannot produce any future issue capable of supplanting him on the royal line of succession. It's a done deal -- it's going to be King Charles then King William. (Well, they might each take a different royal name upon ascending to the throne, but the point remains.)

It's only with William's successor that there become ambiguity, due to the question of whether or not he will produce an heir.

Well d'uh.

 

[Starkers]

I don't even know what the hell you're talking about here.

Then why comment about the BAFTAs if you didn't watch it?

I didn't comment about the BAFTAs. I commented about your inaccurate claim that all acting requires is that one remember one's lines and not knock over the scenery.

ETA:

Although, for the record, Prince William is not a potential future monarch. He is a future monarch. Unless he dies before his grandmother or father leave the throne or he refuses to take the throne, he is guaranteed to become King of the United Kingdom, as his father is the heir apparent and cannot produce any future issue capable of supplanting him on the royal line of succession. It's a done deal -- it's going to be King Charles then King William. (Well, they might each take a different royal name upon ascending to the throne, but the point remains.)

It's only with William's successor that there become ambiguity, due to the question of whether or not he will produce an heir.

He's a potential future monarch. You can't give two examples of how he might not become king then insist he will. Up until 1502 everyone beleived Arthur would succeed Henry the 7th but then he died so we got Henry the 8th.

I'm trying to think of the last time a British royal took another name upon ascending the throne and I guess that might go back to George the 1st (and then he just alglasised his name) Of course the surname changed somewhat in world War 1, Windsor was introduced to distance the royals from the fact that they were German in origin!

 

[Sci]

Then why comment about the BAFTAs if you didn't watch it?

I didn't comment about the BAFTAs. I commented about your inaccurate claim that all acting requires is that one remember one's lines and not knock over the scenery.

ETA:

Although, for the record, Prince William is not a potential future monarch. He is a future monarch. Unless he dies before his grandmother or father leave the throne or he refuses to take the throne, he is guaranteed to become King of the United Kingdom, as his father is the heir apparent and cannot produce any future issue capable of supplanting him on the royal line of succession. It's a done deal -- it's going to be King Charles then King William. (Well, they might each take a different royal name upon ascending to the throne, but the point remains.)

It's only with William's successor that there become ambiguity, due to the question of whether or not he will produce an heir.

He's a potential future monarch. You can't give two examples of how he might not become king then insist he will.

It seems to me that the only scenarios under which he wouldn't become King are so improbable as to render them effectively irrelevant. For all practical considerations, he is the future King.

 

[Starkers]

Whatever you say, Sci, you're never wrong after all

 

[DimesDan]

Whatever you say, Sci, you're never wrong after all

Indeed, unless he is wrong and then he buggers off and doesn't post in that thread again!

Anyway, We (As in the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland) could very well become a Republic before if and when HRH Prince William becomes King which I in my own personal opinion would be a great and splendid thing.

 

[Starkers]

Pah, in your dreams, Roundhead!

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

I'm trying to think of the last time a British royal took another name upon ascending the throne and I guess that might go back to George the 1st (and then he just alglasised his name) Of course the surname changed somewhat in world War 1, Windsor was introduced to distance the royals from the fact that they were German in origin!

The British royals sometimes use a different name to rule under other than their preferred christian name. Victoria was previously Alexandrina (Drina within the family) of the House of Hanover. Charles has expressed a preference to rule as George VII -- he feels Charles has been an unlucky name for British monarchs.

 

[Starkers]

Yes but Victoria was her Christian name and the name she ruled under. I didn't know that about Charles but I can see his point. I remember there being some concern about if Harry becomes King someday as he would be Henry the 9th.

There are not enough King Pauls for my liking...

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Her christian names were Alexandrina Victoria. As I said, she was always known as Alexandrina, or Drina for short, within the royal family. Any TV series or film has probably ignored that fact to avoid confusion. It's kind of surprising that she took her mother's name as they weren't exactly on the best of terms at the time of her accession to the throne.

Charles' names are Charles Philip Arthur George. Williams's are William Arthur Philip Louis. Harry's are Henry Charles Albert David so he could potentially choose any of those if the need ever arose.

ETA: More on topic. I do wish Ms Mulligan would either prepare an acceptance speech for the Academy Awards, or hire someone to write one for her. I'd prefer not to see a re-run of the "Oh my God, I didn't expect this. I didn't have anything prepared." You're an actress, love. Play the part of an up-and-coming major talent, and not a gibbering idiot.

 

[Sci]

Whatever you say, Sci, you're never wrong after all

I know. It's so arrogant of me to actually stand by what I say and defend it from criticism, isn't it? Only someone who can't accept that he's ever wrong would do something like that.

Whatever you say, Sci, you're never wrong after all

Indeed, unless he is wrong and then he buggers off and doesn't post in that thread again!

You don't like getting the last word?

 

[Starkers]

Whatever you say, Sci, you're never wrong after all

I know. It's so arrogant of me to actually stand by what I say and defend it from criticism, isn't it? Only someone who can't accept that he's ever wrong would do something like that.

Yes but anyone with some self awareness will occasionally admit they can see the other point of view or that they're wrong. I've never seen you do that.

 

[DimesDan]

Whatever you say, Sci, you're never wrong after all

I know. It's so arrogant of me to actually stand by what I say and defend it from criticism, isn't it? Only someone who can't accept that he's ever wrong would do something like that.

Whatever you say, Sci, you're never wrong after all

Indeed, unless he is wrong and then he buggers off and doesn't post in that thread again!

You don't like getting the last word?

Of course I do, the thing is, if I am wrong, I'll admit that, I am man enough to know when I am wrong when the facts are held up infront of me, or if the other person is so impassioned with what they have to say, their view point may have some value.

Whatever you say, Sci, you're never wrong after all

I know. It's so arrogant of me to actually stand by what I say and defend it from criticism, isn't it? Only someone who can't accept that he's ever wrong would do something like that.

Yes but anyone with some self awareness will occasionally admit they can see the other point of view or that they're wrong. I've never seen you do that.

Indeed, I also find it rather amusing, maybe even verging on the ironic that an American is so damned adamant that The Prince of Wales, HRH Prince Charles will ascend to the British Thrown, let alone his son, HRH Prince William.

Me, I have to swear allegiance both to the Queen and to God given I'm a Scout Leader, but I still think the UK will become a Republic, either when the EU becomes United Europe or when a few of the major Commonwealth countries like Australia or Canada become Republics, that is for another thread in a completely different section of this board!

As for the topic at hand, the one about Sally Sparrow winning the BAFTA on Sunday night, when I saw her picture on the front page of (I think) The Times, I just thought, well, she ain't gonna be in Who again.

Has anyone seen the film she won it for? Is it actually anygood?

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Has anyone seen the film she won it for? Is it actually any good?

Yes, it is, and she definitely has talent worthy of an award. The subject matter of the film may not be everyone's cup of cha, however.

 

[DimesDan]

Has anyone seen the film she won it for? Is it actually any good?

Yes, it is, and she definitely has talent worthy of an award. The subject matter of the film may not be everyone's cup of cha, however.

It's something to do with a young woman discovering her sexual side while at school and having "relations" with a teacher right?

I guess I could google or wiki it, but the title escapes me right this moment.