Bryan Fuller spills Disco info.

[StarMan]

Wasn't it the opposite? He was initially running Discovery, then both shows, and then left/got fired from Discovery and was only working on American Gods?

Yes! Dear lord I'm misremembering more and more these days. I was stoked he came on board to reignite the Trek franchise, *then* he departed for American Gods.

After that there was another show with 'Daisies' in the title (I think), which IIRC he also departed. I never watched it.

Budgetary issues seemed to a common thread in his productions. Season 1 of AG was fairly expensive, and he wanted more for S2. Gillian Anderson chose not to continue on in her role after his departure.

Such a frustrating show. I wasn't a big fan of S2, but felt they'd started to right the ship in S3. Then cancelled.

 

[somebuddyX]

#Releasethefullercut XD

I want to see the scene where Discovery disguises itself as a Klingon ship, if that was true. I just imagine a big PLONK sound as the saucer detaches and then it rolls away.

Under Bryan Fuller the Discovery was going to disguise itself as a D7?

I saw this posted on twitter, the source is apparently “Star Trek: Designing Starships Volume 4: Discovery - Page 11” Source: https://twitter.com/CodySDax/status/1250897284038037512 https://twitter.com/CodySDax/status/1250897554482638849

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[Daedalus]

I want to see the scene where Discovery disguises itself as a Klingon ship, if that was true. I just imagine a big PLONK sound as the saucer detaches and then it rolls away.

Under Bryan Fuller the Discovery was going to disguise itself as a D7?

I saw this posted on twitter, the source is apparently “Star Trek: Designing Starships Volume 4: Discovery - Page 11” Source: https://twitter.com/CodySDax/status/1250897284038037512 https://twitter.com/CodySDax/status/1250897554482638849

www.trekbbs.com

It shows how much changed over time. I recently rewatched Context Is for Kings, and what is sometimes referred to as a "Sech class battlecruiser" is also called a "D7" and a "Bird of Prey" in the same episode. A bit messy.

 

[Christopher]

After that there was another show with 'Daisies' in the title (I think), which IIRC he also departed. I never watched it.

No, Pushing Daisies debuted in 2007, a decade before Discovery. Fuller's only executive-producing credit after Trek and American Gods is for a horror documentary series on Shudder.

And Pushing Daisies is very much worth watching.

 

[StarMan]

No, Pushing Daisies debuted in 2007, a decade before Discovery. Fuller's only executive-producing credit after Trek and American Gods is for a horror documentary series on Shudder.

And Pushing Daisies is very much worth watching.

I'm gonna put this down to speedreading his wiki than misremembering. Regardless I shall make sure to stop to Google & verify next time before posting.

 

[Phily B]

The people who mismanaged Discovery are still in charge ten years later.

 

[Christopher]

The people who mismanaged Discovery are still in charge ten years later.

People can learn from their mistakes and improve. A lot of people thought TNG was "mismanaged" in its first couple of seasons, but it and its spinoffs became enduring successes thereafter. It's the same situation in both TNG and DSC -- the same top executive is in charge throughout (Rick Berman, Alex Kurtzman), but the writing staff has a revolving door in the first two seasons, and then a steady showrunner takes over in season 3 and brings improved quality and stability (Michael Piller, Michelle Paradise).

 

[Phily B]

People can learn from their mistakes and improve.

"Can" being the operative word.

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[Christopher]

"Can" being the operative word.

Nobody bats a thousand. The Secret Hideout Trek output includes both hits and misses, just as the Berman-era output did, just as the Roddenberry-era output did, just as the movies did.

 

[Firebird]

"Can" being the operative word.

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Oh no, one underperforming movie means the sky is falling!

Do you have anything better to do?

 

[fireproof78]

Nobody bats a thousand. The Secret Hideout Trek output includes both hits and misses, just as the Berman-era output did, just as the Roddenberry-era output did, just as the movies did.

Indeed.

 

[Phily B]

Nobody bats a thousand. The Secret Hideout Trek output includes both hits and misses, just as the Berman-era output did, just as the Roddenberry-era output did, just as the movies did.

Yes, we need more TV Trek that is universally hated that is so bad it tanks the franchise for over a decade. There are dozens of sci-fi writers, Trek alum that are far more talented than Transformers man.

 

[Cap'n Calhoun]

Yes. I gather that the reason he was let go from DSC is because working on AG at the same time was slowing him down too much. He was splitting his attention during the development phase when the show needed his full attention.

That's how I recall it too. I sometimes get the sense there were other fights, but I'm not sure if that's legitimate or just misreporting.

After that there was another show with 'Daisies' in the title (I think), which IIRC he also departed. I never watched it.

No, Pushing Daisies debuted in 2007, a decade before Discovery. Fuller's only executive-producing credit after Trek and American Gods is for a horror documentary series on Shudder.

And Pushing Daisies is very much worth watching.

In the D-Con Chamber interview excerpted above he says they almost came back for a reboot/season 3 recently, and it seems like it could still be on the table. Here's the relevant excerpt:

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[Cap'n Calhoun]

The people who mismanaged Discovery are still in charge ten years later.

Arguable. I'd guess the people who mismanaged it the worst were likely Berg and Harberts, and they got fired a year later.

Kurtzman's made missteps, but in my book he's had more hits than misses, and I'll take someone who's a little daring and makes some spectacular failures along the way over someone who just plays it safe and solely gives us bland cookie-cutter Star Trek. We have plenty of that already. Give me whatever crazy ideas you've got as long as you keep a "core" Trek show (largely episodic exploration on a ship, like TOS/TNG/SNW) that keeps pumping out strong material. That's how we get shows like DS9, Lower Decks, and Prodigy.

If SNW ends and a clear successor doesn't come into sight soon, then I'll be more ready to complain.

 

[Christopher]

Kurtzman's made missteps, but in my book he's had more hits than misses, and I'll take someone who's a little daring and makes some spectacular failures along the way over someone who just plays it safe and solely gives us bland cookie-cutter Star Trek. We have plenty of that already. Give me whatever crazy ideas you've got as long as you keep a "core" Trek show (largely episodic exploration on a ship, like TOS/TNG/SNW) that keeps pumping out strong material. That's how we get shows like DS9, Lower Decks, and Prodigy.

Yes. It's worth keeping in mind that Kurtzman runs the production company, not the individual shows, which all have their own showrunners. He's more like the admiral commanding the various "captains"/showrunners. And he seems pretty willing to let the different showrunners make the shows their own and take them in a range of different directions appealing to different tastes. I can't fault him for being willing to take chances, even if the results have been hit-or-miss.

 

[Cap'n Calhoun]

Kurtzman runs the production company, not the individual shows, which all have their own showrunners

Agree with the comment overall, with the minor footnote that Kurtzman ran Discovery season 2 and is a co-showrunner for Starfleet Academy. Though with Disco he had the awkward job of being the temp taking over from fired showrunners and doing the job until they hired a new one.

If people want to hate Starfleet Academy, I'd say wait until it comes out or at least until we see a trailer. Otherwise you're tipping your hand that you just plan to hate on stuff no matter what.

 

[Phily B]

Agree with the comment overall, with the minor footnote that Kurtzman ran Discovery season 2 and is a co-showrunner for Starfleet Academy. Though with Disco he had the awkward job of being the temp taking over from fired showrunners and doing the job until they hired a new one.

If people want to hate Starfleet Academy, I'd say wait until it comes out or at least until we see a trailer. Otherwise you're tipping your hand that you just plan to hate on stuff no matter what.

There is no way that he isn't 90% in control, the chick he is working with as "co-showrunner" has done absolutely nothing of note and I have no idea how she got the job.

 

[Hugo Rune]

She ran a whole TV show for 4 years and interviewed/pitched well?

Gene was a freelancer with a raft of middling scripts until Lucile saw something in The Cage

Hugo - but he was a he...

 

[fireproof78]

Agree with the comment overall, with the minor footnote that Kurtzman ran Discovery season 2 and is a co-showrunner for Starfleet Academy. Though with Disco he had the awkward job of being the temp taking over from fired showrunners and doing the job until they hired a new one.

If people want to hate Starfleet Academy, I'd say wait until it comes out or at least until we see a trailer. Otherwise you're tipping your hand that you just plan to hate on stuff no matter what.

This. It's clear the Kurtzman is little more than a punching bag until the next punching bag is installed.

 

[Phily B]

She ran a whole TV show for 4 years and interviewed/pitched well?

Gene was a freelancer with a raft of middling scripts until Lucile saw something in The Cage

Hugo - but he was a he...

I have no idea what you're getting to with that last line, but if you're baiting about gender then go do it elsewhere.