I concur with the notion of Spock feeling he was subject to Federation law for killing Kirk but that he'd be considered exempt from any guilt on Vulcan. There's another issue that has always occurred to me. T'Pau was very well connected with UFP and had even been offerred a seat on the Fed High Council. After the incident, she intercedes on behalf of the Enterprise for having diverted to Vulcan. Surely she would soon learn of the ruse perpetrated by McCoy in feigning Kirk's death. During the rituals on Vulcan, she seemed a real stickler for adhering to tradition and honor. Wouldn't she look unkindly on the deception on the part of Spock's friends? Wouldn't this reflect badly on Spock and hurt his image back in the old hometown?
'Amok Time' question
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She did seem annoyed by T'Pring's manipulation of the events, which also went against the spirit of the tradition even if paying lip service to the letter. Perhaps she'd feel that human cleverness this once served her own political goals and helped put the young bitch in her place.
I do wonder how Spock is viewed back home. Perhaps people actually look askane at anybody who still follows the crazy old tradition of pon farr fighting? At anybody who comes from a family of freaks who maintain their very own pon farr arena? Civilized Vulcans might not stoop to such nonsense any more - Sarek and T'Pau's ilk might be thought of as degenerate old nobility, too senile even in their youth to be taken seriously, but unfortunately in possession of lots of old money and old power.
That Spock scorned the ways of his family and ran off to Starfleet might actually count in his favor!
But that he only won a fight against a sissy human by cheating... Tsk, tsk.
Timo Saloniemi
I do wonder how Spock is viewed back home. Perhaps people actually look askane at anybody who still follows the crazy old tradition of pon farr fighting? At anybody who comes from a family of freaks who maintain their very own pon farr arena? Civilized Vulcans might not stoop to such nonsense any more - Sarek and T'Pau's ilk might be thought of as degenerate old nobility, too senile even in their youth to be taken seriously, but unfortunately in possession of lots of old money and old power.
That Spock scorned the ways of his family and ran off to Starfleet might actually count in his favor!
But that he only won a fight against a sissy human by cheating... Tsk, tsk.
Timo Saloniemi
Nice to see it in 3D
. The obligatory blueprints: 
...Of course, one then wonders why the space wasn't used for something more productive, like giving the crew bigger cabins (Scotty sort of confirms in "Relics" that he could have used more personal space even back when he was slim and fit).
On today's vessels, space like that would assuredly be put to double use. Say, there wouldn't be a dedicated movie theater, because a machine shop or a hangar could be turned to one by spreading a big sheet for a screen. Now, Starfleet can't easily put the arboretum to double use (unless one already counts it as a recreation AND research facility), but most other recreation facilities would probably serve a second function...
Although in the bright starhopping future, recreation could well be the primary and the other one the secondary function of such a space, not vice versa.
Timo Saloniemi
On today's vessels, space like that would assuredly be put to double use. Say, there wouldn't be a dedicated movie theater, because a machine shop or a hangar could be turned to one by spreading a big sheet for a screen. Now, Starfleet can't easily put the arboretum to double use (unless one already counts it as a recreation AND research facility), but most other recreation facilities would probably serve a second function...
Although in the bright starhopping future, recreation could well be the primary and the other one the secondary function of such a space, not vice versa.
Timo Saloniemi
1. Riley mentioned a bowling alley in "The Naked Time," so it just had to exist
(and a dance was to be held there, so perhaps it did have multiple usability - maybe the lanes flipped over or something: it'd be hard to dance with the gutters).2. Bowling was way cool in the 1960s, and thus is obviously due for a retro revival in the 2260s (along with miniskirts and beehive hair-do's)...
Someone posted a nifty, CG, in-universe bowling shirt image in a thread a while back, with a name like "Bones" embroidered on it - but I can't find it...
1. Riley mentioned a bowling alley in "The Naked Time," so it just had to exist
Yup. Although of course Riley mentioning it would be our best proof imaginable that it didn't exist.
Do modern warships have bowling alleys? Even temporary ones in aircraft hangars? I'd imagine the motion of the ship would either detract from the sport - or then enhance it in an interesting fashion!
Timo Saloniemi
Good question... Looking around shows that the US Naval Base in San Diego has an alley (and, oddly enough, dancing), and a cruise ship has bowling as well, but I haven't found any warships with lanes (yet)...
Not to change the subject too much but while watching Amok Time remastered last night I noticed in the scene in Spock's quarters that Spock is holding a shiv (likely a writing stylus) in his right hand behind his back, being barely able to control himself. Huh???
Now, was the idea that Spock just might stick the captain with it the intension of the scene? Notice too that Spock uses his left hand to control the right hand with the shiv, showing inner turmoil and a Vulcan type of schizophrenia.
Because if that's the case and the writer's intension; that changes the scene and increases the drama and makes it even more unsettling to view.
Or, am I just reading things into that little scene, what do you think?
Now, was the idea that Spock just might stick the captain with it the intension of the scene? Notice too that Spock uses his left hand to control the right hand with the shiv, showing inner turmoil and a Vulcan type of schizophrenia.
Because if that's the case and the writer's intension; that changes the scene and increases the drama and makes it even more unsettling to view.
Or, am I just reading things into that little scene, what do you think?
That's the light in which I viewed it.
Commander Rabbit
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I just watched Amok Time for the first time in years, and I had a similar question. As well known as Kirk is, I wonder how his cheating (or, more precisely, Bones's cheating on his behalf) would affect the Vulcan's view of him, Spock and Starfleet as a whole.
For the same reason that in the advanced 24th century, Wesley Crusher missed the only bus to Starfleet Academy in "Menage a Troi" -- it served the story.
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