I still think Ward's Hydra is the castoffs of the main organization who went seriously underground after Age of Ultron and will probably pop back up in Civil War.
Agents of SHIELD: Season 3 - Discussion (SPOILERS LIKELY)
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I still think Ward's Hydra is the castoffs of the main organization who went seriously underground after Age of Ultron and will probably pop back up in Civil War.
Those Mercs probably cost a thousand dollars an hour, and you pay them to sleep.
$24,000 per day per goon.
There are not enough armoured cars in the world.
$24,000 per day per goon.
There are not enough armoured cars in the world.
Well it's been over a year at this point, so I'm sure that by now they've at least decided to have a meeting on the possibility of an exploratory commission into the viability of having a meeting in which to decide when to have a meeting to actually do something about the testimonies taken so far.
In short: probably.
Seriously though, given that the US Vice President was recently removed for his ties to a (as far as we know) separate US based terrorist organisation with ties to big business (read: lobbyists) and that I imagine a number of high level government officials were probably implicated as Hydra supporters, besides Senator what's-his-name from Iron Man 2, I don't imagine they're going to be inclined to bang that particular drum all that loud.
Best to assure the public they're in complete control, show off all the scary unmarked boxes Talbot has subdued, declare victory and move on...at least until killer robots start slamming cities into the ground and people with superpowers start coming out of the woodwork with astonishing frequency. Then it becomes a whole other thing.
And besides Vice President Rodriguez and Senator Stern, Senator Cherryh went down for his ties to Wilson Fisk in over in Daredevil. That's a lot of public political downfalls in a very short amount of time, and all from separate sources of corruption.
Which makes me wonder why the Hell Tony Stark is going to think these guys should be in charge of superheroes.
I'm not convinced they were all separate. Given that the VP was working with Killian and AIM, that AIM in the comics is a Hydra offshoot, and that the President was again targeted by Project Insight in TWS, I suspect that Killian was either knowingly or unknowingly working for Hydra when he colluded with the VP.
^There's certainly the very real possibility of overlap (Hydra filching their data at the very least) but since none have been explicitly (or even implicitly really) shown, then for the time being we must assume there is no direct link and these are separate enterprises. It'a a big world after all and not all the power hungry sociopaths and misfits can be on Hydra's payroll.
And no, I don't think Hydra putting the US President on a list of several million people who would be an impediment to Hydra really constitutes a link between them and AIM.
Also worth remembering that the *real* ten rings is still out there and they explicitly are not associated with AIM and were shown in Ant-Man as being in competition with Hydra, so clearly there's room for several players on the board.
And no, I don't think Hydra putting the US President on a list of several million people who would be an impediment to Hydra really constitutes a link between them and AIM.
Also worth remembering that the *real* ten rings is still out there and they explicitly are not associated with AIM and were shown in Ant-Man as being in competition with Hydra, so clearly there's room for several players on the board.
Maybe they're all being influenced by the same sinister party...
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...could it be...
...possibly...
...I don't know...
THANOS!?!?!
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...could it be...
...possibly...
...I don't know...
THANOS!?!?!
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Do you live someplace "cultured" but less than 5 miles away there's a trailer park full of drunk hillbillies cooking meth, shitting on the pavement?
Titan's trailer park full of Hillbilles is called Earth.
Titan's trailer park full of Hillbilles is called Earth.
That would then imply that Tony will be aware Coulson is alive. I asume that the Avengers still don't know, right?
Or SHIELD, or whomever, said "hey we need a prosthetic hand in these dimensions" and gave him no further details.
Hm, I suppose that works. I thought that perhaps they needed more specific data to make it really work perfect.
Misty Knight who dates/dated Iron Fist, and is probably going to be in the Netflix line of Marvel Adventures...
http://deadline.com/2015/09/luke-cage-marvel-simone-missick-cast-misty-knight-netflix-1201513413/
...Has a (Stark manufactured) bionic hand and forearm.
Hmmm.
I see potential for crossovers.
http://deadline.com/2015/09/luke-cage-marvel-simone-missick-cast-misty-knight-netflix-1201513413/
...Has a (Stark manufactured) bionic hand and forearm.
Hmmm.
I see potential for crossovers.
That seems quite unlikely, given Tony's resources and given that Coulson's existence is known to the government and the military. They probably know, but it isn't relevant to the films, and the films want to stay independent of the TV continuity, so we can assume it's just something they found out between movies and that doesn't come up during the movies.
Dead means dead.
There's no probably about Misty Knight's involvement in Netflix's Marvel series. Simone Missik is playing her in Luke Cage.
I for one am not convinced that the Hydra faction we saw in Ant-Man answers to Grant Ward. The Hydra faction from Ant-Man was led by Mitchel Carson, who was described as the "former head of defense at SHIELD" in 1989. So we're talking about someone who is apparently very high up at SHIELD, presumably just below the level of Director. He appeared to be roughly co-equal in rank to Peggy Carter and Howard Stark in '89, and I just don't find it plausible that somebody that high up in SHIELD or government would answer to a mid-level Hydra field agent like Ward.
On top of that, I just find it really hard to believe that a cabal that had become as powerful and well-ensconced as Hydra -- infiltrating SHIELD from top to bottom, having their leader in the United States Cabinet (Alexander Pierce), putting another of their followers in the U.S. Senate (Senator Sterns), having followers in what I took to be the British House of Lords (the Baroness), controlling large corporations such as Echidna Capital Management (Dr. List), controlling what I took to be important Wall Street banks ("the Banker") and important Middle East-based oil firms ("the Sheikh")... Hydra just seems too large and powerful for me to buy that it's been reduced to a couple of Hell's Angels wannabes in a bar.
So sign me up as one of the folks who thinks Ward has taken over one faction of Hydra, and that the faction we saw in Ant-Man is probably wealthier and more powerful (and covertly controls some large corporation or other upper-class organization), and that the two factions may not be in contact with one-another.
On top of that, I just find it really hard to believe that a cabal that had become as powerful and well-ensconced as Hydra -- infiltrating SHIELD from top to bottom, having their leader in the United States Cabinet (Alexander Pierce), putting another of their followers in the U.S. Senate (Senator Sterns), having followers in what I took to be the British House of Lords (the Baroness), controlling large corporations such as Echidna Capital Management (Dr. List), controlling what I took to be important Wall Street banks ("the Banker") and important Middle East-based oil firms ("the Sheikh")... Hydra just seems too large and powerful for me to buy that it's been reduced to a couple of Hell's Angels wannabes in a bar.
So sign me up as one of the folks who thinks Ward has taken over one faction of Hydra, and that the faction we saw in Ant-Man is probably wealthier and more powerful (and covertly controls some large corporation or other upper-class organization), and that the two factions may not be in contact with one-another.
I'm still of the opinion that the HYDRA with better resources is the part that went into hiding when their leaders started dropping like flies to strike from the shadows at a later date (like say when their enemies are beating the crap out of each other over differences about legislation and how it affects them) and Ward just got the cast offs they left behind.
They probably just let Ward and his group think their whats left so everyone thinks HYDRA is a broken remnant thats incapable of being a major threat to get everyone off the more capable group's backs until they take they're ready to strike.
