I swear the 200 year older Doctor 11 said he was 900+? I'll rewatch the first half before ep8 airs.
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I believe he said 1100. It was the younger Doctor that said 900.
He said he was 1100 and something. The Doctor has pretty firmly stuck to 900 and slightly above since the new series started.
Let me put it this way, instead of the stereotypical pizza boy coming to the door, it was a paint brush.
^ Zat is very significant.
1100 years old.
Eleventh Doctor.
Coincidence?
Come to think of it...900 years = Ninth Doctor!? Is this the birth of a new trend?
Eleventh Doctor.
Coincidence?
Come to think of it...900 years = Ninth Doctor!? Is this the birth of a new trend?
If The Doctor starts experimenting with walking cat fish and sargassum I'm out of here.
He is still 909 though, it was just his older, deader, self that as 1100
No, he claims he's 909 years old. I don't believe him for a second. I'm not going to pull out the exact episodes and do the math, but based on certain lines in both the classic and new series, he's somewhere in the mid-1100's (probably a coincidence). That's assuming you can trust him in those cases.
No, he claims he's 909 years old. I don't believe him for a second. I'm not going to pull out the exact episodes and do the math, but based on certain lines in both the classic and new series, he's somewhere in the mid-1100's (probably a coincidence). That's assuming you can trust him in those cases.
What I mean is his claimed age has remained consistent, with only a couple of years added from the start of the new series. the 1100 thing was just his 200 years older self.
In one of those "Inside the TARDIS" scenes, the Doctor tells Amy he's 907 years old. I believe that given his line in the opening two-parter of series six about his age being a sensitive subject, he's probably been bullshiting about the figure for years.
So I have been re-watching all the episodes and have pretty much finished up. I noticed a few things and just wanted to make sure I was not the only one. Instead of theorizing it fact for fact I will just state it like a story instead.
I believe that the little girl timelord is Amy's Daughter, who we found out is Riversong. I am also thinking that Riversong is the second regeneration and the little girl is the first one. I am pretty sure she is also the same little girl in the spacesuit. So the Silence kidnap Amy when she is in America and she gives birth some episodes later. I believe that the Silence raise her too. I only know part of the reason though. So in the episode titled The Lodger The Doctor sees someone has built a time engine modeled after the TARDIS and it is abandoned and the emergency program is looking for a pilot. We see that same time engine in Impossible Astronaut and in Day of the Moon. We can assume it is also built by The Silence as well considering they are occupying it when the Doctor stops them in the Day of the Moon. Thing is I am guessing that they cannot pilot the time engine (makeshift TARDIS) which is why they somehow manipulate Amy into being pregnant because Riversong CAN pilot the TARDIS. I missed a few simple points here which is how did the Silence build a time engine? Well in The Doctor's Wife, The Doctor builds one yes? And lastly the Silence are also thought to be responsible for controlling the TARDIS and exploding it in The Big Bang. But how would they know how to do that? Well, the Doctor does show them how to do that too in the episode entitled Amy's Choice when he explodes the TARDIS to escape both dreams. I have one more speculation here (this last one is a bit of a stretch) which would have to do with the Living Planet, House. At the end of The Lodger the Time Engine disappears just vanishing. It is my theory that House, being expunged from the TARDIS by Sexy, might have sensed the Time Engine and becomes able to occupy it. This all however has to be looked at 4th dimensionally as they are separate incidents that CAN be tied together but have not yet. Usually in prior seasons seemingly coincidental things like this usually get tied together but only towards the end. The remaining few questions after this all would be mostly what do the Silence need with a Time Engine? Why do they want the Doctor to know of his death (and why is the Silence watching all this from the hill shouldn't someone have subconsciously shot him?)?, How do they see all these seemingly unrelated incidents without occupying the TARDIS? And lastly what would House have to gain by occupying the time engine?
Once again mostly observations and speculations but some of it seems to ring true of a long term story arc....possibly two and a half seasons.The Pandorica will open and Silence will fall. I had one more thought which was in the Eleventh hour we see Jeff's Laptop with the insignia titled Myth where the Y is actually the trident version or the letter Psi from the greek also we see in the Impossible Astronaut that the Doctor is painted in the nude holding a trident that looks like the letter Psi as well.
Anyway that's it!
Edit: I forgot last coincidence which Ganger Doctor before he disintegrates says Geronimo....In Big Bang he types in Geronimo into the communicator before flying into the exploding TARDIS. Maybe it's nothing.
I believe that the little girl timelord is Amy's Daughter, who we found out is Riversong. I am also thinking that Riversong is the second regeneration and the little girl is the first one. I am pretty sure she is also the same little girl in the spacesuit. So the Silence kidnap Amy when she is in America and she gives birth some episodes later. I believe that the Silence raise her too. I only know part of the reason though. So in the episode titled The Lodger The Doctor sees someone has built a time engine modeled after the TARDIS and it is abandoned and the emergency program is looking for a pilot. We see that same time engine in Impossible Astronaut and in Day of the Moon. We can assume it is also built by The Silence as well considering they are occupying it when the Doctor stops them in the Day of the Moon. Thing is I am guessing that they cannot pilot the time engine (makeshift TARDIS) which is why they somehow manipulate Amy into being pregnant because Riversong CAN pilot the TARDIS. I missed a few simple points here which is how did the Silence build a time engine? Well in The Doctor's Wife, The Doctor builds one yes? And lastly the Silence are also thought to be responsible for controlling the TARDIS and exploding it in The Big Bang. But how would they know how to do that? Well, the Doctor does show them how to do that too in the episode entitled Amy's Choice when he explodes the TARDIS to escape both dreams. I have one more speculation here (this last one is a bit of a stretch) which would have to do with the Living Planet, House. At the end of The Lodger the Time Engine disappears just vanishing. It is my theory that House, being expunged from the TARDIS by Sexy, might have sensed the Time Engine and becomes able to occupy it. This all however has to be looked at 4th dimensionally as they are separate incidents that CAN be tied together but have not yet. Usually in prior seasons seemingly coincidental things like this usually get tied together but only towards the end. The remaining few questions after this all would be mostly what do the Silence need with a Time Engine? Why do they want the Doctor to know of his death (and why is the Silence watching all this from the hill shouldn't someone have subconsciously shot him?)?, How do they see all these seemingly unrelated incidents without occupying the TARDIS? And lastly what would House have to gain by occupying the time engine?
Once again mostly observations and speculations but some of it seems to ring true of a long term story arc....possibly two and a half seasons.The Pandorica will open and Silence will fall. I had one more thought which was in the Eleventh hour we see Jeff's Laptop with the insignia titled Myth where the Y is actually the trident version or the letter Psi from the greek also we see in the Impossible Astronaut that the Doctor is painted in the nude holding a trident that looks like the letter Psi as well.
Anyway that's it!
Edit: I forgot last coincidence which Ganger Doctor before he disintegrates says Geronimo....In Big Bang he types in Geronimo into the communicator before flying into the exploding TARDIS. Maybe it's nothing.
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According to the Doctor, Amy was replaced BEFORE they went to America.
The Doctor said "it must have been just before America." That doesn't necessarily mean he's correct in his assumption. Personally I think the kidnapping took place between Impossible Astronaut and Day of the Moon. I don't recall Amy seeing Madame Kovarian prior to this, and the events of the series opener support the kidnapping when Amy is doing her X-Files thing. Of course, I could be wrong. Just my thoughts ...
Yeah I think that's when the abduction happened too.
There's the "I thought I was pregnant, I'm not pregnant" thing, but that could go either way.
Checkmate
Commodore
The thing I don't get is that this means they have time travel technology, too. So why are they fighting the Doctor in such a bizarre way, when they can just travel to any point in time in which they know the Doctor will have been and eliminate him then and there?
And since the Doctor is always fluttering through time, they likely know where he's going to be in his future, too. So any argument about not being able to do it because of some great impact on the timeline means they can't kill them at all if they know he continues to be successful long into his relative future. Which, clearly, is not a concern for them, so there's no reason they can't take him out in his past, either.
And since the Doctor is always fluttering through time, they likely know where he's going to be in his future, too. So any argument about not being able to do it because of some great impact on the timeline means they can't kill them at all if they know he continues to be successful long into his relative future. Which, clearly, is not a concern for them, so there's no reason they can't take him out in his past, either.
I would venture to guess that their method of time travel is not nearly as advanced as The Doctors. Also, they are taking the same approach to defeating The Doctor as the alliance did with The Pandorica. They are attempting to out wit him because brute force against him as always failed. Basically, The Doctor's enemies are playing smarter and not harder.
It's not a matter of when they take him out, it's a matter of how. You say "eliminate" like it's as easy to do as it is to say, which of course it's not. How many people in the course of the show (not to mention the entire history of time within-show) have tried to "eliminate" the Doctor without success? That never works.
These people have decided to learn from their mistakes. If a Time Lord has foiled all of their plans to "eliminate" him wherever and whenever in the whole history of time, then what they need is another Time Lord to stop him. And since there are no more Time Lords, they need to create one.
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