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2015-2016 NBA Season Discussion

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tomalak301

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Season has started so might as well start a thread about it too. Warriors didn't look like they had any kind of Championship hangover last night, and Steph Curry might be the best shooter I've seen play the game. Man when he gets going it is fun to watch.
 
Warriors didn't look like they had any kind of Championship hangover last night,

It's a looooooong season, especially if you're trying to repeat.

Lakers play Sac tonight after losing our home opener to Minny Wednesday. I'm not going to complain about Byron running their legs off in training camp because he likes his teams in shape so they can play tough D. Not only did they give up something like 45% shooting to the Wolves, they faded in the 4th quarter, 2 things all of Byron's scary conditioning was supposed to take care of.

Oh well, it's a looooong season.
 
See what Kings can do against the Clips tomorrow. Then I actually cheeer.

In the meantime, Lamarcus is aclimating to SA.
 
Warriors didn't look like they had any kind of Championship hangover last night,

It's a looooooong season, especially if you're trying to repeat.

Lakers play Sac tonight after losing our home opener to Minny Wednesday. I'm not going to complain about Byron running their legs off in training camp because he likes his teams in shape so they can play tough D. Not only did they give up something like 45% shooting to the Wolves, they faded in the 4th quarter, 2 things all of Byron's scary conditioning was supposed to take care of.

Oh well, it's a looooong season.

Of course it is, but it seemed like the point I kept hearing (especially from the TNT telecast) was that there is usually a championship hangover that first game. You get the rings, it probably becomes a distraction and the team has a poor effort. That didn't happen.

Honestly, I'm looking foward to like December 1, where it feels like the season really does start.
 
Warriors didn't look like they had any kind of Championship hangover last night,

It's a looooooong season, especially if you're trying to repeat.

Lakers play Sac tonight after losing our home opener to Minny Wednesday. I'm not going to complain about Byron running their legs off in training camp because he likes his teams in shape so they can play tough D. Not only did they give up something like 45% shooting to the Wolves, they faded in the 4th quarter, 2 things all of Byron's scary conditioning was supposed to take care of.

Oh well, it's a looooong season.

Of course it is, but it seemed like the point I kept hearing (especially from the TNT telecast) was that there is usually a championship hangover that first game. You get the rings, it probably becomes a distraction and the team has a poor effort. That didn't happen.

Honestly, I'm looking foward to like December 1, where it feels like the season really does start.
Yeah, those ring ceremony games can be a bitch. But what I meant was that you may not be able to see the "championship hangover" until the playoffs start.

It's looooong season.
 
And then the Thunder lose to them... Hm.

Go Kings?

Yeah, right. Double header Fri-Sat, will witness with Son as a reward. No Cousins, no chance.

Sacramento is the definition of dysfunction.
 
The Warriors now have the best start in NBA history, but what is up with the Lakers. Kobe is dragging that team down badly and he was especially awful tonight.
 
The Warriors now have the best start in NBA history, but what is up with the Lakers. Kobe is dragging that team down badly and he was especially awful tonight.
You sound like a person who has not seen this team play without Kobe this season.

I understand that people still believe that "as Kobe goes, so go the Lakers", but this is no longer true and hasn't been for the last few years. This a team full mismatched vet pieces along with some promising rookies. And to top it off, they're badly coached. This team has way more than Kobe dragging it down.
 
Steph Curry could miss his next 219 three-pointers and still shoot a higher percentage than Kobe Bryant.
 
No point. Thought it was an amusing stat. Steph Curry is playing really well and Kobe Bryant is not, which isn't news to anyone, but the stat is still a crazy number (which not only points to the low percentage Kobe is shooting at but that he's shot quite a decently large amount).
 
No point. Thought it was an amusing stat. Steph Curry is playing really well and Kobe Bryant is not, which isn't news to anyone, but the stat is still a crazy number (which not only points to the low percentage Kobe is shooting at but that he's shot quite a decently large amount).
Kobe's low shooting percentage this season cannot be denied, but as great a player as Steph is right now, he has a "forever" to go before he even comes close to accomplishing what Kobe has accomplished.

Kobe's shooting has been puzzling to me. It's one thing to not be able to beat guys off the dribble, or jump high enough to get your shoot off uncontested, and another thing entirely to miss open mid-range jumpers. Kobe's always been a great shooter. That doesn't just disappear in one off season. Kobe, though, has missed nearly all of the last 3 seasons. So, I continue to believe that "rust" is also playing a large part here. Rust does wear off, so i also expect his shooting to improve as the season wears on.

As for his shot totals, Kobe is the most confident player I've ever seen. He ALWAYS believes that the next one is going in. But overall, Kobe, more than pretty much any player in NBA history, has earned the right to play out the rest of the season if he wants and the way he wants.
 
He is one of the greatest players of all time. Playing out the season makes sense because he can have a farewell tour. His final game in Philadelphia is tomorrow. I hope the Sixers give him honorary boos for old time's sake. ;)

Here's a random article of something that almost happened, which was Kobe ending up as a Sixer:

As Kobe Bryant returns to Philadelphia to play basketball on Tuesday night, apparently for the last time, he comes back as a 37-year-old at the end of a Hall of Fame career. He is in his 19th professional season and, with a tweak of time, all of those seasons could have been spent in a Sixers uniform.

It is a career that contained seven appearances in the NBA Finals, five championships, two scoring titles, a Most Valuable Player award and 15 selections to the All-Star Game. Bryant became symbolic of the revival of the Los Angeles Lakers, carrying on the tradition of Jerry West, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Magic Johnson. Just as easily, he could have been the player who picked up the banner for Billy Cunningham, Julius Erving and Maurice Cheeks.

Unfortunately, for that latter narrative, the calendar pages fell the wrong way. Lucas, who was prepared to take Bryant with the first pick in the 1996 NBA draft rather than Allen Iverson, was fired before he got the chance. The Sixers were sold in April and the new management under Pat Croce brought in another general manager and, ultimately, another coach.

Had Harold Katz waited another year to sell and stayed with Lucas, who had two seasons remaining on his contract, things would have fallen much differently.

...

"I think Philadelphia has always had a love-hate relationship with Kobe," Lucas said. "But he would have been up there on Mount Rushmore in Philly, with Hal Greer and Wilt and Doc. He should be up there."

Certainly, if you count greatest Philadelphia athletes, I'd probably put him second of all time.
 
As Kobe Bryant returns to Philadelphia to play basketball on Tuesday night, apparently for the last time, he comes back as a 37-year-old at the end of a Hall of Fame career. He is in his 19th professional season and, with a tweak of time, all of those seasons could have been spent in a Sixers uniform.

It is a career that contained seven appearances in the NBA Finals, five championships, two scoring titles, a Most Valuable Player award and 15 selections to the All-Star Game. Bryant became symbolic of the revival of the Los Angeles Lakers, carrying on the tradition of Jerry West, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Magic Johnson. Just as easily, he could have been the player who picked up the banner for Billy Cunningham, Julius Erving and Maurice Cheeks.

Unfortunately, for that latter narrative, the calendar pages fell the wrong way. Lucas, who was prepared to take Bryant with the first pick in the 1996 NBA draft rather than Allen Iverson, was fired before he got the chance. The Sixers were sold in April and the new management under Pat Croce brought in another general manager and, ultimately, another coach.

Had Harold Katz waited another year to sell and stayed with Lucas, who had two seasons remaining on his contract, things would have fallen much differently.

...

"I think Philadelphia has always had a love-hate relationship with Kobe," Lucas said. "But he would have been up there on Mount Rushmore in Philly, with Hal Greer and Wilt and Doc. He should be up there."

Certainly, if you count greatest Philadelphia athletes, I'd probably put him second of all time.
Second to who, Joe Frazier, Rocky? :) If you're serious, give me a hint, like the sport.

Interesting to consider what might have happened had Philly drafted Kobe instead of Charlotte. I'm sure they wouldn't have accepted our offer of Vlade in exchange for the kid. Even if Philly had drafted Kobe, I think Phil still goes to L.A. because of Shaq. But without Kobe, how many championships would the Lakers have gotten back then? I'd say at least 1 (2000). We would never have traded Eddie Jones without Kobe. But there'd be no 3-Peat and no mid-00's back to back.

But Kobe with the 6ers? Could he have gotten that 2001 team a ring? Kobe instead of Iverson might have done it. His defense, rebounding and leadership, might have been enough. After game 1, AI had little to no affect on the series. The biggest thing though, would have been no Kobe-Shaq team-up and that may have turned that "super team" into just a "very good" one.

Spurs would have ruled the decade.
 
I consider Wilt Chamberlain (another Laker as well, of course) to be the best Basketball player of all time, so Kobe would necessarily have to be second.

Frazier is certainly on the list. I'm not counting fictional people.
 
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