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2012 NFL Offseason

I feel bad for Colt McCoy; the guy's had crap for receivers on a perpetually woebegone franchise and Weeden's too old to use a first-round pick on if you're not ditching the just-as-good McCoy.

Weeden didn't play football from the time he was 18 until he was 25. He has far less miles on him in terms of football hits. People who haven't seen him in person don't realize just how good he is, how accurate he is and that he's got a cannon for an arm. His football IQ is very high. People don't get it if they aren't familiar with him. Cleveland lucked out all over the place by drafting him. With all due respect to Colt McCoy, who most definitely maximized his talent and is by all reports a good man (as is Weeden) he's not "just as good" as Weeden talent wise. I've seen both of them play in person many times. It's not even close. Hell, Staubach was old, too, and he did just fine.

The most obvious comparison is Chris Weinke. Cleveland is not one or two years away from making a deep playoff run, especially since they've done fuck-all to improve their receiving situation. Weeden is just good enough to create a quarterback controversy on a shitty Browns team, win the job by default, then put the same team back on the quarterback market as his skills start to fade. Even putting all that aside, I think Weeden's going to have a slower and rougher adjustment than people are projecting for him. He was only a two-year starter, and Gundy runs a pretty extreme spread; it's not like Weeden's a four-year guy out of a conventional attack. He had some pretty bad trouble with his drops in the Senior Bowl, for example. Blowing a first-round pick on him was an absolutely hilarious reach (not as egregious as Miami taking Tannehill at 8, though, oh my holy fuck). There was no one picking between 22 and 37 who needed a quarterback.

As for the Bears ... man. I'm fine with the Jeffery pick, since it gives the Bears two really big wideouts. The Hardin pick, though ... what the hell. Yes, blow a third-round pick on a guy who started fifteen games in his career and was out all last year with a broken shoulder.
 
The senior bowl was an off day for Weeden. He's not Weinke. He'll be fine.

Saving this post for when he's out of the league in four years. :p

Knocks on Weeden:

Has injury history including his fucking shoulder.

Is old.

Only started two seasons.

Played in gimmick offense in gimmick conference.

Is going to a terrible shithouse team.

:p
 
Throwing a football doesn't hurt his shoulder like throwing a baseball did. He's said that repeatedly. It's a completely different motion; he's never missed a football game due to injury. He's deadly accurate most of the time. No, it's not a "gimmick" but I get where that line of thinking comes from. The man's ridiculously strong and talented. The shithouse team I'll give you. Brandon "only" started 2 seasons because he walked on as a 25 year old who'd been out of football for 5 years and they already had a legitimate, experienced starting quarterback in place in Zach Robinson. Once he got the chance, he took off more than anyone dreamed possible. I have a feeling we'll both remember when the season rolls around. Difference of opinion is the spice of life and all that.

I just loved it when he destroyed all of those clay pigeons with his throws on the science of sport segment. You have to admit, that was awesome times ten. :lol:
 
Aside: Never host a Super Bowl party at your house when your favorite team is one of the contenders.

I threw a SB XLII party at my place, in New England. A funeral broke out at the end of that one.

I don't know crap about the draft. I've never heard of anyone after the first few players. And anyone who tells you at the water cooler tomorrow that the backup long snapper your team took in the 6th round from Northwest Southeast State has a lot of 'upside' and scored well on the Wonderlic is full of shit.
 
Knocks on Weeden:

Has injury history including his fucking shoulder.
Is old.
Only started two seasons.
Played in gimmick offense in gimmick conference.
Is going to a terrible shithouse team.
Not really a fan of Weedon, but I think he'll do just fine. Most of your criticisms don't really fly in the NFL, though. Look at how Cam Newton did: Started only one season, is too young, played in a gimmick offense, and went to a shithouse team. That dude set rookie records.
 
Junior Seau killed himself this morning. Son of a bitch. This feels like another Dave Duerson case. :(
 
^I was reading the Shutdown Corner blog on this report and this is reminding me all too much about what went on in the NHL last year and all those deaths. Just incredibly shocking.
 
Wow, that sucks. I was just at Seau's Bar in San Diego for New Years. Unbelievable, it feels like he was just in the NFL. He only retired 2 years ago.
 
I saw him play in Foxboro a couple times late in his career. He still had it even after 17 or 18 years.
 
The NFLPA filed suit against the NFL today, alleging collusion (that the NFL had ordered teams to stay under an unofficial salary cap, and that the cap penalties against the Redskins and Cowboys for their massive cap gaming are proof of it).

I'm somewhat confused by the timing -- the claim is almost certainly barred by the settlement of Brady, et al. v. National Football League, which even the NFLPA kind of admits in its complaint, and their factual basis relies a ton on media rumors from people like Mike Florio, who's rather notorious for making shit up. The union is also only seeking monetary damages (because they don't want to blow up the CBA), which are going to be almost impossible to prove.

I think the point is to get to the discovery stage and force the NFL to admit a bunch of embarrassing stuff, but the suit is frivolous. Washington and Dallas weren't penalized for going over the cap, they were penalized for structuring contracts in such a way that expected there to be a cap in 2011 and dumping all of the "cap value" in the uncapped 2010 year. This may seem like a slight distinction, but when the NFLPA is alleging a conspiracy to keep in place a hard cap in an uncapped year, the fact that other teams were way over and went unpunished really hurts the union's allegation of a firm and dastardly conspiracy.
 
The era of paying running backs (not named Adrian Peterson) ridiculous money is over, for the most part. Forte's great, but I can understand the Bears' reluctance to give him a huge deal.
 
The Saints kept a ledger of bounty payments.
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The NFL has a copy of a "ledger" that was kept detailing weekly earnings for players in the New Orleans Saints bounty system, according to two sources with knowledge of the investigation.

The ledger, which shows both money earned for "cart-offs" and "whacks" and deducted for "mental errors," also points to the fact that players were told on a week-by-week basis of their performance.

According to sources, the NFL showed portions of the ledger during meetings with some of those who have been investigated in the scandal.

"The players clearly knew what was going each week with the payments," a source told Yahoo! Sports. In fact, multiple sources admitted that Saints defensive players would regularly encourage teammates to put money earned from the bounty system back into the pool. It's unclear if that was to increase the potential winnings or eventually use the money for some other purpose.

How in the world did a team this stupid manage to win the Super Bowl? Oh, right, through the guy they now refuse to pay.

Imagine the pit in the Saints' stomachs when Vilma said he wanted to take this court. Only more hilarious material will come from this. The bounty scandal truly is the gift that keeps on giving.
 
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