Continuity

[F. King Daniel]

I think the site used to be:
us.share.geocities.com/dswtrek
I've been unable to recreate what I did to "find it" yesterday. Wherever it was (I'm guessing archived somewhere) the zip downloads didn't work but you could view all the text files just fine.

I googled "What's Wrong with Mr. Scott's Guide to the Enterprise" (the name of the text file I mentioned above) and could only find something extremely dodgy called "The Instant Star Trek Technical Archive" from a torrent site on the dark side of the internet, which seems to have the file as part of a 40mb archive. I'm not going there with a ten-foot pole.

 

[elaithin]

I used to find Dixon's rants entertaining, until it occurred to me that his unusual vehemence was probably a sign of significant mental illness. It didn't seem funny anymore after that.

 

[Lt. Brannigan]

Wow, looking though this thread I didn't realize that continuity was such a point of contention. My views on the matter are thus.

1: As long as I can recognize the who the characters are, I don't care if the plot fits anywhere in the celluloid timeline. The characters just have to be true to who they are. I don't want Spock singing "I Feel Pretty, Oh So Pretty" or have James T. Kirk burst into tears because Bones took the last cookie.

2: Also Star Trek fiction is awesome regardless because A well written book can immerse in the world far more than any other type of Trek Media.

 

[TheAlmanac]

I've been unable to recreate what I did to "find it" yesterday. Wherever it was (I'm guessing archived somewhere) the zip downloads didn't work but you could view all the text files just fine.

You may have been looking at this archive of his files (uploaded by someone else, not Dixon himself), although the .zip files on that port of the original GeoCities site seem to be working after all.

 

[F. King Daniel]

^Thank you! That looks like the one to me. The zips not downloading might just be my phone. I spent hours looking for it again!

James Dixon's mental health? From what I've read of his, I'd put him on a similar level of obsessive weirdness as that guy who runs the EAS website. I hope neither of them has any serious mental health issues.

 

[Captain Robert April]

At least Masao knows how to deal with others in a civilized manner. And his site is a pretty useful resource, even if I don't agree with his take on everything (why he doesn't take the word of the producers that the JJprise really is that freakishly huge takes denial to a whole 'nother level).

 

[David cgc]

Yeah, it is James Dixon. But since he hasn't posted in years, there aren't many of his posts left in the system.

Sweet...the "Find all posts by" link on his member page is bringing back a couple of pages worth. Got some good reading ahead of me..haha.

Oh, wow, I remember too much of that stuff. I think we need to update Steve's canon primer to replace "Rick Berman" with "J.J. Abrams."

 

[Steve Roby]

I think we need to update Steve's canon primer to replace "Rick Berman" with "J.J. Abrams."

It is a bit outdated now, isn't it?

 

[Therin of Andor]

although the .zip files on that port of the original GeoCities site seem to be working after all.

I received a message a few months after the demise of GeoCities that someone had resurrected my old site, and a lot of other old GeoCities sites, to a new archive site, called ReoCities.

Replacing the "g" in the URL with an "r" can usually take you to a version of each site as it appeared before the axe fell.

http://reocities.com/

 

[F. King Daniel]

^ No such luck. But I think the only thing not at the site TheAlmanac posted is the latest (ver17) chronology which is available elsewhere.

I'd like to see the Fandom Star Trek Chronology version 18, featuring comments about the fall of Enterprise, the recent novels and Star Trek XI, one day.

 

[Deranged Nasat]

I've been unable to recreate what I did to "find it" yesterday. Wherever it was (I'm guessing archived somewhere) the zip downloads didn't work but you could view all the text files just fine.

You may have been looking at this archive of his files (uploaded by someone else, not Dixon himself), although the .zip files on that port of the original GeoCities site seem to be working after all.

"Crimes against continuity?" Did he seriously mean that statement? I fear he did.

He sounds like my (hopefully) humorous self-parody with the axe-wielding Nasat, only in his case it isn't a self-mocking parody but an actual attitude...

The comment about disliking those "to whom Trek has become a religion" and who moan endlessly about "what should and should not be in Trek" in "un-IDIC like fashion" wins the Hypocrisy of the Year award given my read-through of his text.

Anyway, enough of my moaning about other people.

 

[JoeP]

I've been unable to recreate what I did to "find it" yesterday. Wherever it was (I'm guessing archived somewhere) the zip downloads didn't work but you could view all the text files just fine.

You may have been looking at this archive of his files (uploaded by someone else, not Dixon himself), although the .zip files on that port of the original GeoCities site seem to be working after all.

These are gold, Jerry. GOLD!

 

[TheAlmanac]

^Thank you! That looks like the one to me. The zips not downloading might just be my phone. I spent hours looking for it again!

No problem...I'm glad I could help.

I received a message a few months after the demise of GeoCities that someone had resurrected my old site, and a lot of other old GeoCities sites, to a new archive site, called ReoCities.

Replacing the "g" in the URL with an "r" can usually take you to a version of each site as it appeared before the axe fell.

The fact that so many fictional timelines are/were on GeoCities websites means that I had to make myself pretty familiar with the various archive projects that sprang up when GeoCities was shut down so I could update the links on my own site.

Believe me, I'm very grateful for the existence of ReoCities. I (and the Web) would've lost about 40 timelines if they hadn't come along--although (as someone else already pointed out) this particular copy of the Dixon material isn't on that particular recreation of GeoCities.

 

[Captain Robert April]

I suspect ST09 may have induced, in Mr. Dixon, that brain aneurysm that so many have been waiting for.

I shudder to think what kind of conniption fit we would've been witness to if he were still allowed to post here...

 

[F. King Daniel]

Actually, I'm not sure he would have minded STXI that much. He would have hated it for existing, and pointed out it's "crimes" in extreme detail, but since it's supposed to be an alternate timeline (and thus wouldn't "hurt" TOS) I think he'd cope.

He would probably insist that the prime-universe bits were actually the future of the Enterprise timeline (and admittedly, valid arguments could be/have been made that Enterprise might not be the TOS timeline) becuase the Kelvin had phasers instead of lasers and the bridge didn't look like two shoeboxes pushed together (or whatever that STXI guy said. But what iconic and cool shoeboxes they were!)

I found a post on Trekmovie.com, about the Mythbusters Gorn Can(n)on in Dixon's name, so maybe he's just biding his time, Nero-style.

 

[Captain Robert April]

Have the Mythbusters guys admitted yet that they built that cannon backwards?

 

[Warped9]

Have the Mythbusters guys admitted yet that they built that cannon backwards?

I saw this episode last Sunday and I had the same thought.

 

[PrimeDirective]

Consistency is the glue that holds a story together, which brings in the readers making them feel like they're part of the events and characters' lives. In other words, it makes a story more believeable.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Nah. I'm reading Pawns amd Symbols, an old TOS novel from 1985 (when I was 1!), featuring a strange version of the Klingons: They can't see the colour red, their homeworld is called Tahrn and they don't headbutt people while screaming about honour. They wash, they're articulate and they live by a strict code. I love it. The worldbuilding is great. Does the fact that it's "all wrong" make it of less worth than modern stuff? No. In fact, I'm reading it specifically to see how the author envisioned Klingons before TNG came along. It's "wrongness" is it's strength.

 

[Christopher]

What's noteworthy is that Pawns and Symbols was published after The Final Reflection's version of the Klingons was becoming established as the "default" Trek Lit version, and yet this book was still allowed to take the Klingons in a completely separate direction. It's a good illustration of the state of the novels at the time: a continuity linking multiple novels was gradually emerging, but it wasn't comprehensive and books were free to disregard it and go in their own directions.