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Is KITT too powerful? (SPOILERS for new Series)

Brent

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IMO they have made KITT way too powerful and advanced for the time. What time period does this show take place in, 2050? 2150? heh

The #1 thing I hate is the transformers deal. I do not like the fact that the car can transform into other cars, a truck (awful), a van (even more awful), a cop car, a submarine, I mean come on. IMO a better tact would have been to used its advanced holography to create a stealth kind of cloak that made it APPEAR like one of these cars, but not actually physically transform into that car. I mean, where is it getting the matter to physically do this? It is just too much IMO, cheapens the whole thing.

The #2 thing I hate is KITTs apparent ability to "replicate" anything it needs. I mean really, come on. It can replicate a key, it can freaking replicate serum in a vile and everything! That's just too much to believe IMO.

The #3 thing I hate (but do think is cool) is the incredibly advanced computer system it seems to display. I've never seen such computer power, even in the original KITT. I mean it can do so much, too much IMO, it can eaisily hack into and control pretty much anything, the freaking car can display stuff on its skin, while it is all VERY cool, I think they've gone a bit overboard with the display and computer capabilities here.

Don't know what category this fits in, but another thing that stands out that I didn't like was when KITT melted and blew up the EMP thing attached to his hood. WTF was that, it like melted and then blew up, how the heck did KITT do that!?!? Just too much IMO.

The technology just isn't believable at all if this is supposed to be taking place in 2008. At least the real KITT seemed more real to the time, its displays were CRT TVs for example. I would have preferred LCDs on this new KITT rather than what we've got.

Oh, one more little nugget, the CGI in this show is still pretty bad. I can easily tell when they transition from "real" to "CGI" and it looks bad. Especially when you have Mike in the car and you can really tell the background outside is a green screen.

Oh, also, I really hate the attack mode design, yeah I know Super Pursuit mode looked kinda silly as well, but IMO the hood scoops on the hood, the way high spoiler in the back, and the wheels, just all looks bad IMO when in attack mode.

In the future, I hope KITT develops more range to his voice. That's one thing the original KITT had, he had range. Right now this KITTs voice seems depressed and drab all the time, he needs more emotion and range to his voice.
 
To quote a certain First Officer, "Yes, absolutely, I do indeed concur wholeheartedly!" That's how much I agree with you. ;) LATE 21st century maybe, but not 2008.
 
Since I put the show in mute and usually pay attention to anything other than the women on the show I have no idea what KITT's capability is.

That said, I have happened to see weapons grade lasers and all manner of outlandish technology displayed by the KITT car. Truthfully though, I've got no emotional investment in this show so what the hell...I'll just pretend It's actually one of those mid-to-late 90's syndicated shows.
 
I'm been watching the dvd pilot of the 1982 Knight rider over and over again. Mostly for nostalgia(the giant floppy disks lol) The women back then had a porn star look

Suffice to say the 1982 version is shakespeare compared to the 2008 version. I get a kick out of seeing Michael introduced to KITT. Also KITT isn't a main star that must be glorified to the point of excess like the 2008 version. It's a machine and steps back when needed. For example at the end there's no back talk or interaction between Micheal and devon as it's being sent for repairs. It's simply a tool.

Devon- Only you could have dented this car!

It's the people that made the show with 20% of the car being the focus. I guess what I mean is in 2008 we know KITT is an icon and the production crew treat it as a star.

All these features of KITT are made to entice the audience just like when we got Super Pursuit mode to bring up ratings.
 
I'm been watching the dvd pilot of the 1982 Knight rider over and over again. Mostly for nostalgia(the giant floppy disks lol) The women back then had a porn star look

Suffice to say the 1982 version is shakespeare compared to the 2008 version. I get a kick out of seeing Michael introduced to KITT. Also KITT isn't a main star that must be glorified to the point of excess like the 2008 version. It's a machine and steps back when needed. For example at the end there's no back talk or interaction between Micheal and devon as it's being sent for repairs. It's simply a tool.

Devon- Only you could have dented this car!

It's the people that made the show with 20% of the car being the focus. I guess what I mean is in 2008 we know KITT is an icon and the production crew treat it as a star.

All these features of KITT are made to entice the audience just like when we got Super Pursuit mode to bring up ratings.

That's a very good point! That's a big difference I see with this show, and the old one. In this one the car is the main character, it gets so much attention and focus that it just goes overboard with it all.
 
I'm been watching the dvd pilot of the 1982 Knight rider over and over again. Mostly for nostalgia(the giant floppy disks lol) The women back then had a porn star look

Suffice to say the 1982 version is shakespeare compared to the 2008 version. I get a kick out of seeing Michael introduced to KITT. Also KITT isn't a main star that must be glorified to the point of excess like the 2008 version. It's a machine and steps back when needed. For example at the end there's no back talk or interaction between Micheal and devon as it's being sent for repairs. It's simply a tool.

Devon- Only you could have dented this car!

It's the people that made the show with 20% of the car being the focus. I guess what I mean is in 2008 we know KITT is an icon and the production crew treat it as a star.

All these features of KITT are made to entice the audience just like when we got Super Pursuit mode to bring up ratings.

Having watched the '82 pilot a couple of times myself I fully agree.

There's just something great about the way KITT is introduced and the way his and Michael's partnership evolves over the 90 minutes or so.

The 2008 KITT is a lot of flash and no substance. And I agree with Brent they've given this KITT far too many abilities and the morphing and "replicator" things are just beyond absurd. :rolleyes:

So much potential in this series and it's pretty much been blown.
 
What's funny is that KITT was an altra advanced car for it's era as well, it had a fax machine, GPS, an AI, it was indestructable and had it's own crime lab and face to face communicatons with Devon if need be. The new car is like the new Batmoble complete with new gadgets and more advanced computer. The computers on the original Enterpise were as powerful as lap tops are nowadays so they had give the Enterprise D a far more advanced computer. Sure this is also a matter of product placement for Ford but they really couldn't quite make the same show with the car as the original, although they could work alittle bit more on Michael and KITT's relationship.
 
the dynamic is completely different with this show. the original was a "buddy" show...two "guys" righting the wrongs of the world just like starsky and hutch, holmes and watson etc except that one happened to be a robot. Now they've got a former gf chick and a bunch of other people so it doesn't have that same feel to it. Also the car doesn't have as much personality.
 
I like the buddy show reference. To me when the show started it reminded me of a crime show like Columbo.


The 2008 KITT is a lot of flash and no substance. And I agree with Brent they've given this KITT far too many abilities and the morphing and "replicator" things are just beyond absurd. :rolleyes:

I agree we also have Deanna Russo stripping within the first 15 mins of the first episode then a bikini, then a beach episode finally a hot dress.

It reminds me of Enterprise's gratuitousness.

Also they gave KITT a sub mode in the THIRD episode!

Sure KITT 2000 had gadgets but not this damn fast. Super pursuit mode was made to keep people interested after 3 years and keep ratings afloat.

If the 2008 series keeps introducing things at this rate they'll surely run out of ideas.

Are they that desperate for joe sixpack to keep tuned in every second. Looking at the ratings, I guess they are desperate.
 
I think it's intersting that people only reference the pilot of the 1982 Knight Rider, a pilot that is quite different from what the series evolved into.

I disagree that KITT is less of a character in the original, I think he is much more a "tool" in this version. There seems to be fewer scenes with KITT trying to shoo a dog trying to urinate on him and so on.

As to the main point, is KITT too powerful, I would probably agree. I said in one of the other threads that I wish his capabilities were more defined and consistent so we could appreciate when he was in peril or not and so they had to be creative when dealing with his limitations. Adding new features would be memorable moments as the series went on.

I remember in the old series he could unlock physical locks, I never quite figured out how that was supposed to work.
 
I think it's intersting that people only reference the pilot of the 1982 Knight Rider, a pilot that is quite different from what the series evolved into.

Agreed, but the pilot stands out.

And what the seried (d)evolved to is another matter, for sure. But KITT and Michael chemistry was established in the pilot movie and it pretty much was the only thematic constant throughout the series and it always worked. Further, the show didn't rely on... so much flash and... titillage.
 
I still enjoy the original show. Even now, with my nitpicker's eye, I can buy into almost all of the original KITT's capabilities. One notable exception is the original KITT's ability to pick mechanical locks remotely just by having Michael point the face of his com link at at the lock. Sorry, but that's silly. :p

Having the new KITT shape-shift into any Ford except Harrison is insanely dumb. I haven't watched any of the new series' episodes. The TV movie was too stupid on too many levels for me to waste precious seconds of my life on the series. And for the record, my gripes about neo-KITT in the movie are minor compared to my gripes with other aspects of the movie, like the story and the characters.
 
I still enjoy the original show. Even now, with my nitpicker's eye, I can buy into almost all of the original KITT's capabilities. One notable exception is the original KITT's ability to pick mechanical locks remotely just by having Michael point the face of his com link at at the lock. Sorry, but that's silly. :p

It's possible inside of Michael's watch exsisted some-kind-of "crazy magnet" that worked even on no ferris metals.
 
Sure KITT 2000 had gadgets but not this damn fast. Super pursuit mode was made to keep people interested after 3 years and keep ratings afloat.

I'm waiting for KITT to turn into the Space Shuttle.

I wouldn't put it pass them. Also KITT will fly in season 2 and then forget how to by the next episode ;)

Anyone beside me wish Knight Industries wasn't flourishing like it is now? Now we have dozens of nameless techs running around acting like they're busy.

I guess it would have been better if knight industries was in shambles, then we could have a skeleton crew with limited supplies to fix KITT

Near limitless resources makes the show a little boring. "Oh no KITT got hit with a missle." "that's okay we have enough spare parts to build another one."

KITT's getting Voyager syndrome
 
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