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Who did Uhura piss off??

I don't particularly see why ENT's example would mean much these days. ENT was almost 21 years and three presidents ago. A child born the day ENT premiered is gonna be old enough to drink alcohol in September. It's a very old show and not relevant to modern practices.

You must be very young.

36 going on 37 -- glad to hear you think that's young!

I don't particularly see why ENT's example would mean much these days. ENT was almost 21 years and three presidents ago. A child born the day ENT premiered is gonna be old enough to drink alcohol in September. It's a very old show and not relevant to modern practices.
What??? Lol
You just wait 20 years from now. You won't be saying something like this. "Modern" practices...indeed...:lol:

Nah. I'm just reminding you guys that ENT is as almost old today as TOS was when TNG premiered. 21 years is a long time -- it's an entirely different era of TV production.
 
36 going on 37 -- glad to hear you think that's young!



Nah. I'm just reminding you guys that ENT is as almost old today as TOS was when TNG premiered. 21 years is a long time -- it's an entirely different era of TV production.

Except for the way we obtain and watch it now. Its really not much different. I mean effects havent changed over the last 17 years since Enterpriwe ended. Things changed much more significantly between 1969 and 1987, than 2005-2022.
 
36 going on 37 -- glad to hear you think that's young!



Nah. I'm just reminding you guys that ENT is as almost old today as TOS was when TNG premiered. 21 years is a long time -- it's an entirely different era of TV production.
Well, I'm 52. When you get up here where I am, you too will think of 37 year old people as young. Trust me, you might not think so now, but you will.

Kid.:bolian:

And yeah, 21 years CAN be a long time, but the thing is, the older you get, the faster the time seems to go, and 21 years can seem like yesterday.
 
Well, I'm 52. When you get up here where I am, you too will think of 37 year old people as young. Trust me, you might not think so now, but you will.

Kid.:bolian:

And yeah, 21 years CAN be a long time, but the thing is, the older you get, the faster the time seems to go, and 21 years can seem like yesterday.

54 here. Time flies when.....time is flying, dinnit?
 
Well, I'm 52. When you get up here where I am, you too will think of 37 year old people as young. Trust me, you might not think so now, but you will.

Kid.:bolian:

And yeah, 21 years CAN be a long time, but the thing is, the older you get, the faster the time seems to go, and 21 years can seem like yesterday.


Time goes by slow for me. Not sure why. Agonizingly slow sometimes.
 
"Who did Uhura piss off??"
Everyone watching by trying to develop her character but instead ended up being kinda awkward and two-dimensional.
 
When you get to 59 going on 60, you'll understand better. ;)

All I'm sayin' is, 21 years? That's just about one-third of your lifespan. Kind of a long time!

Except for the way we obtain and watch it now. Its really not much different. I mean effects havent changed over the last 17 years since Enterpriwe ended. Things changed much more significantly between 1969 and 1987, than 2005-2022.

First off, "except" is doing a lot of work there. You're also ignoring some pretty fundamental structural changes in how television works these days. First off, most shows are heavily serialized, with each episode functioning more as a chapter in a story than as a complete story in their own right; a lot of shows are also constructed to be binge-watched instead of over time. There's also the fact that most television shows have much shorter season orders -- 10 to 13 has become standard, and this is literally half the typical season order in 2001 (22), and is even less than a typical season order back in the late 90s (26). There's also just the general fact that the market is much more saturated these days, which means that the bar for a show to be successful is much lower -- which in turn means that TV shows can be constructed to appeal to much more specific, niche tastes, since they don't have to try to attract as large of an audience with broad tastes as they used to. And that's not to say all the ways in which television production has become more cinematic in style and presentation, as the costs of cinematic-style lighting and cinematography have decreased.

And, I'm sorry, but the visual effects on DIS, SNW, and PIC are just much better than they were on ENT. That's not a diss against ENT, but the age of the old CGI is noticeable.

Television is just very, very different than it was a literal generation ago.

Well, I'm 52. When you get up here where I am, you too will think of 37 year old people as young. Trust me, you might not think so now, but you will.

Kid.:bolian:

I am delighted to be called a kid, especially since I recently had the horror of speaking to the campaign manager of a state delegate and realizing this person was literally born in 2002. lol

But -- 21 years is 40.38% of your entire lifespan. That's still a long time ago. :bolian:

And yeah, 21 years CAN be a long time, but the thing is, the older you get, the faster the time seems to go, and 21 years can seem like yesterday.

I have definitely been having that sensation of being shocked that 20 years ago was in fact twenty entire years ago....!
 
All I'm sayin' is, 21 years? That's just about one-third of your lifespan. Kind of a long time.



First off, "except" is doing a lot of work there. You're also ignoring some pretty fundamental structural changes in how television works these days. First off, most shows are heavily serialized, with each episode functioning more as a chapter in a story than as a complete story in their own right; a lot of shows are also constructed to be binge-watched instead of over time. There's also the fact that most television shows have much shorter season orders -- 10 to 13 has become standard, and this is literally half the typical season order in 2001 (22), and is even less than a typical season order back in the late 90s (26). There's also just the general fact that the market is much more saturated these days, which means that the bar for a show to be successful is much lower -- which in turn means that TV shows can be constructed to appeal to much more specific, niche tastes, since they don't have to try to attract as large of an audience with broad tastes as they used to. And that's not to say all the ways in which television production has become more cinematic in style and presentation, as the costs of cinematic-style lighting and cinematography have decreased.

And, I'm sorry, but the visual effects on DIS, SNW, and PIC are just much better than they were on ENT. That's not a diss against ENT, but the age of the old CGI is noticeable.

Television is just very, very different than it was a literal generation ago.



I am delighted to be called a kid, especially since I recently had the horror of speaking to the campaign manager of a state delegate and realizing this person was literally born in 2002. lol

But -- 21 years is 40.38% of your entire lifespan. That's still a long time ago. :bolian:



I have definitely been having that sensation of being shocked that 20 years ago was in fact twenty entire years ago....!

Again EXCEPT the way we obtain and watch it which. YES that includes 10 or 13 episodes which can be watched In a binge session and is basically ONE BIG EPISODE.

Not much has changed since 2005 in regards to story and effects. DS9 has the BEST formula for an arc based Star Trek ever. What DISCO is doing Is not a new concept. Enterprise has some fantastic effects as does Voyager and DS9. The new shows do as well but I think DISCO has TOO MUCH and are not as "clean". Sometimes it's hard to track the action...

Now i will say the SETS have changed considerably in size and lighting. LED lights have taken over every aspect of lighting these sets and it gives off a different vibe for sure. LEDS lights are used just about everywhere nowadays the last 10+ years or so. So it's not surprising that scifi shows throw them all over the place...
 
Having just watched this week's episode, I have now concluded that Uhura didn't tick anyone off. The constant traumatizing life threatening situations every week under Pike's command caused her to hide in the communications division and never come out for the next 30+ years, and I don't really blame her.
 
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