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Spoilers Is this series a reboot of First Contact?

Timofnine

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I’m seeing some strong parallels to Star Trek: First Contact so far this series.

The first time that the Borg Queen travelled back in time she/the collective was intent upon assimilating earth. Now, she is travelling back in time along with our hero’s to save Earth’s future as a part of Picard’s rag tag crew.

Or, once again does the Borg Queen have a dastardly plan, with her eventually pulling that old ‘First Contact’ chestnut out of her handbag and thinking that this is a convenient opportunity to travel in to the past so that she can once again attempt to assimilate the future? Surely she doesn’t care which future is assimilated as long as the Borg survive? Picard should know better really from past experience, though I understand that he has a lot at stake and is under quite a lot of pressure at the moment - potentially he could also be be suffering from mild concussion after Q’s left jab. I hope that the Queen genuinely does have good intentions as she is really quite adorable in this iteration… but as already mentioned, there was a whole movie about this lady epically destroying an entire fleet of starships along with hundreds of lives for this kind of opportunity to travel back in time and change Earth’s history. It looks to to me that the Borg Queen doesn’t need a cube and sphere this time if this is indeed her plan… she has Picard and the La Sirena ready and willing to take her along for the ride.

Thinking more positively, perhaps this collaboration between Picard and the Borg is what leads to an eventual peace treaty/non aggression pact with the Borg, as the ‘prime’ Queen can sense this alternate personification of herself and experience the benefits of friendship and collaboration with other species instead of blatantly assimilating them? Perhaps the Borg do eventually join the Federation, allowing all species to be linked in to a peaceful collective consciousness, similar to how all of the Borg survivors were linked in the Voyager episode ‘Unity’. Imagine the benefits to the Federation from a technological perspective, and from a social and political perspective how a collective consciousness (not assimilation) could bring benefits to universal peace as long as individuality, freedom and self determination could also somehow be maintained and preserved. Of course from a cultural perspective, this would allow for the ultimate way of understanding all Federation members and species as they join the Federation; their customs, history and experience could be shared with everyone, enriching Federation society and also allowing for the whole of the Federation collective consciousness to preserve these things and have shared experiences.

This season so far for me seems like a mix of:

All Good Things (TNG)
Futures End (Voyager)
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
Star Trek: First Contact
and possibly Past Tense (DS9)
 
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What I'm seeing is new-Battlestar Galactica overtones. nuBSG ended with humanity and Cylons realizing their mutual need for each other, intertwining their destines forever. Even the ramblings of the Borg Queen in the latest episode resemble the ramblings of the Basestar hybrids in BSG. It seems to be the trend these days, with Rey in SW finding some equilibrium with the dark side and all that.

So perhaps while the Queen, Picard and crew are all mutually dependent on one another for the mission this season, it'll bring about a change of heart for all. Borgfleet/Federborg here we come! ;)
 
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I'm hoping they don't rehash "Borg loose in the past".

But I'm wondering if Picard will cause the very divergence he meant to stop. That would fit Q's MO from All Good Things and explain his comments about how it's a dystopia of his own making.
 
So perhaps while the Queen, Picard and crew are all mutually dependent on one another for the mission this season, it'll bring about a change of heart for all. Borgfleet/Federborg here we come! ;)
I really don't see a future where the Borg and the Federation can coexist peacefully. The Borg are founded upon slavery and conquest, no one chose to be mindless Borg drones, they were forced into it. This is anathema to the Federation, itself an embodiment of liberalism. It's a black and white dichotomy that other formerly antagonistic races, such as the Klingons and Cardassians, don't share in. There was always nuance with those civilizations.

A peaceful Borg Collective would no longer resemble the Borg Collective, it would be more akin to the Cooperative. They wouldn't have a Queen, they would exercise free will, and they wouldn't be seeking "perfection."
 
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Eminiar 7: Go Away.

Federation: Screw you, we're coming in!

Eminiar 7: You must obey our laws.

Kirk: I'll scrag your, motherf*@#$%ing planet!

That's some liberalism.

Picard's views on primitive species not up to snuff but fit to be snuffed for the betterment of evolution and sanctity of the Prime Directive is yet another wonder of Federation liberalism.
 
I feel like I'm responding in the dark since we haven't seen 80% of the season, but First Contact was about stopping the Borg from assimilating Earth in the past; which had led to the path of the Federation no longer existing. The second season of Picard looks like it's about correcting something that put Earth on a path to the Confederation.

What's the difference? The Borg are inhuman. The Confederation is very human. In FC's alternate future, Humans become not human at all. They're Borg. In PIC S2's alternate future, Humans become a worse version of themselves. But a worse version of a Human is ultimately still a Human. To channel Eddington: they're worse than the Borg.
 
I don't know if it's a reboot according to the technical definition of the term as it's commonly understood in current TV production parlance, but it is certainly continuing the story threads/themes from that movie and the other sources you list. I would add VOY's "Endgame" to the list. I feel like we are going to get a definitive end to the 24th/25th century Borg story that started in S2 TNG by the time this is done but we'll see...
 
Yet that does seem to happen, according to Lower Decks. Also Star trek Online. Obviously, the Borg will need to have changed considerably.
Lower Decks featured a holo program, and it takes place years prior to Picard. STO isn't canon.
 
What I'm seeing is new-Battlestar Galactica overtones. nuBSG ended with humanity and Cylons realizing their mutual need for each other, intertwining their destines forever. Even the ramblings of the Borg Queen in the latest episode resemble the ramblings of the Basestar hybrids in BSG.

Something else to mention in regards to BSG: In the trailers leading up to season 2, we see Jurati in a red dress with her blonde hair walking around on some planet. Not sure if it was a nod to Number Six but it sure did make me think of that when I saw the trailers.
 
Well, I have just watched ‘’Assimilation’ and I see a lot of evidence to support my prediction that ‘Past Tense’ is an influence in this series of Picard, even though it was bottom of my list of influence episodes (I just guessed because of the time period, 2024)

If Avery Brooks could make a cameo or substantial role as Gabriel Bell then that would be amazing… his aging would not need to be explained as he is playing a different character from Sisko, but Sisko pretended to be Bell anyway so it’s all good and would fit in to canon…

There was a poster on a caravan (not on this forum haha) that said ‘Sanctuary District’ and also people were asking for documents and ID just like when Dax woke up after the transporter accident, but luckily she got help off that rich guy who fancied her! Rios is lucky getting help too in tonight’s episode.

This is also set in Los Angeles, so maybe the Sanctuary districts were smaller in this part of America in 2024 compared to those is San Francisco?

The only reason I would not want the Sisko to cameo in this series (even though it would make sense) is because I think he would deserve a mini series of his own rather than be shoe horned in to a TNG spin off without any gravitas/central role to shoe case his often amazing acting abilities and also provide an extended legacy to DS9. I think the DS9 story needs a separate continuation, though this type of legacy reference in Picard is appreciated.
 
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