So, appereantly *SPOILERS* is Anakin's 'father'.....?

[Mage]

I don't read Star Wars comics, so maybe someone can explain.....

According to some youtube videos I just watched, the Star Wars Darth Vader comics (that are appereantly canon) showed Darth Vader going on a Dark Side vision, where he sees his mother, as a younger woman, pregnant. Now, it seems Sidious appears, and the vision implies he's the one that used the midi-chlorians to create Anakin.

This seems to be in line with a line of dialogue cut from the original ROTS script, where Sidious literally explains this to Anakin, to draw him closer to the Dark Side.

Not really sure what to make of this really. So, first of.... are the comics actually part of the new canon? So, is this basicly true? Or am I missing some crucial details from the comics here?

 

[The Wormhole]

are the comics actually part of the new canon?

Yes, they are. Besides, this was already revealed in the Legends Darth Plageuis novel. And indeed, I more or less assumed this based on the line in ROTS, though I've seen some people think it meant it was in fact Plageus who impregnated Anakin's mother. Indeed, the Plageuis novel actually has Plageuis and Sidious working together to create Anakin.

So, yeah, the only news hear is that Disney has finally decided to accept this idea into their canon.

 

[fireproof78]

I don't read Star Wars comics, so maybe someone can explain.....

According to some youtube videos I just watched, the Star Wars Darth Vader comics (that are appereantly canon) showed Darth Vader going on a Dark Side vision, where he sees his mother, as a younger woman, pregnant. Now, it seems Sidious appears, and the vision implies he's the one that used the midi-chlorians to create Anakin.

This seems to be in line with a line of dialogue cut from the original ROTS script, where Sidious literally explains this to Anakin, to draw him closer to the Dark Side.

Not really sure what to make of this really. So, first of.... are the comics actually part of the new canon? So, is this basicly true? Or am I missing some crucial details from the comics here?

Yup, it's true.

 

[Reverend]

Keep in mind though, it is a force vision so not everything need be taken as literal truth. Every one we've ever seen has had an undercurrent of metaphor and meant as a reflection of the fears and anxieties of the person having said vision.

Vader does not literally have Luke's face (Luke's vision), Obi-Wan was not literally right there with Padme when she died (Anakin's vision), nor did he lead a charge of Jedi against the clones during Order 66 (Yoda's vision.)

 

[Ithekro]

From what I remember, Plageus and Sidious worked to create something using the Dark Side on midi-chlorians. However whatever they did wasn't directly Anakin Skywalker. Anakin Skywalker appears to be the Force countering Plageus's experiments by creating Anakin itself via the midi-chlorians in Anakin's mother.

 

[DigificWriter]

From what I remember, Plageus and Sidious worked to create something using the Dark Side on midi-chlorians. However whatever they did wasn't directly Anakin Skywalker. Anakin Skywalker appears to be the Force countering Plageus's experiments by creating Anakin itself via the midi-chlorians in Anakin's mother.

That is what happened in the Darth Plageus novel, which is not part of the official Canon.

What the Darth Vader comic - which IS official Canon - shows is Palpatine using the Dark Side on a pregnant Shmi, with the clear implication being that he "created" Anakin as a result.

 

[LJones41]

After hearing about this, I finally realized that sooner or later, Disney Studios and the current Lucasfilm company will drain the ambiguity and complexity from George Lucas' creation and transform it a big pile of bland commercialism. It's just a matter of time.

Are we supposed to believe that Sidious playing a role in Anakin's creation is a sign that he was destined to become evil? Is that it? Are we supposed to accept this morally infantile form of storytelling?

So, yeah, the only news hear is that Disney has finally decided to accept this idea into their canon.

Why couldn't Disney and Kathleen Kennedy simply leave the matter alone?

 

[DigificWriter]

The idea of Palpatine influencing the Force to "create" Anakin was actually first seeded by Revenge of the Sith, so this has been floating around in the "orbit" of SW Canon for years, and is what inspired the Darth Plageus novel in the first place.

 

[USS Firefly]

The idea of Palpatine influencing the Force to "create" Anakin was actually first seeded by Revenge of the Sith, so this has been floating around in the "orbit" of SW Canon for years, and is what inspired the Darth Plageus novel in the first place.

Yes by Sidious, who is not known for his honesty.
I don't really like the idea that Sidious is behind everything.

 

[Kemaiku]

Bland commercialism.

Star Wars has had more toys than anything ever, they milked it to an emaciated corpse during the Prequels, I couldn't move for SW toys in scifi stores here piled to the ceiling literally with it when I was 13 nevermind when Phantom Menace came out 4 years later and they boxed and binned Babylon 5 stock. I was *given* a Whitestar because they needed the room for lightsabers.

You are a trilogy and decade too late for that.

 

[Tosk]

Obi-Wan was not literally right there with Padme when she died (Anakin's vision)

He wasn't? Either my memory is completely shot or Obi-Wan was standing less than one foot from Padme when she died, cradling Luke in his arms.

 

[Ithekro]

Meaning that Anakin's visions only tell him part of the truth, but not the whole truth, and sometimes the facts come in a bit wrong or clouded ('difficult to see', as Yoda says).

However, it Anakin's mother is already pregnant in the vision, than Palpatine did nothing to make him, just tried to influence him. The midi-chlorian story was to suggest that they conceived Anakin themselves. Doing something to him after that point isn't Palpatine causing her to conceive in any way.

 

[Kemaiku]

He wasn't? Either my memory is completely shot or Obi-Wan was standing less than one foot from Padme when she died, cradling Luke in his arms.

He was. He was in the room, questioning the medical bot that somehow thought she was dying of sadness.

I swear to fuck that droid was faulty and she was dying of bleeding and that hunk of junk let her.

 

[JD]

Are we supposed to believe that Sidious playing a role in Anakin's creation is a sign that he was destined to become evil? Is that it? Are we supposed to accept this morally infantile form of storytelling?

They've been throwing in visions and hints of Anakin's destiny as Darth Vader pretty much since the prequels, so he was always destined to become evil. This would also provide an extra explanation for why Paplatine was always so interested in Anakin. He was already starting to go after him pretty much the moment he first saw him at the celebration on Naboo, so this adds a nice extra layer to that.

 

[Kemaiku]

Also "does the most evil character in the franchise bringing another life about for an evil plot make them evil?" even need to be humoured?

 

[Guy Gardener]

This is why Luke was so good at blowing up Death Stars.

Lets say that there is some sort of fertility Crisis (which might be why there are too many white people, if they are hogging the "cure"?) with the Space-Humans, so the midichlorians decide or are told to pick up the babymaking-heavylifting.

Midicholians scoot around grabbing Sperms (out of men, or do they find sperm that is already out side of men?) (What's the size differential? How many midichlorians does to take to lift one sperm? Dozens or hundreds?)... Actually if midichlorians eat sperm as well as grab sperm, this in of it self could be the fertility crisis. An imbalance in the force, would lead to a gross overconsumption of sperms, until there's not enough sperms left to service every kind lady that wants to be a mommy.

So, like I was trying to say, Midichlorians do a trench run along proximate women's Fallopian tubes, trying to strike the egg at the end, with their payload... And that is why Luke Skywalker is so good at doing the exact same thing macroscopically.

Actually...

If he emperor was aware of the thermal port flaw, and kept it there on purpose, it could have been a trap, to lure in the last of the Jedi since this is their most basic skill, since their bodies are just a mass of microscopic storkes intent on making deliveries.

Yup.

That means that Luke is likely the father, or the midichlorians in his system delivered sperm from somewhere, not necessarily his own sack, into his sister's uterus, and uncle-daddy Luke is exactly as rednecked as he has always looked, living as an idle prince on a water vapour plantation, bossing around the enslaved droids.

 

[DigificWriter]

Yes by Sidious, who is not known for his honesty.

Nothing Palpatine ever told Anakin was a lie.

 

[Mage]

Ah, ok. I always asumed it was Plageuis who done the deed, not Sidious. Since all the talk about manipulating midi-chlorians was about him. But I never knew about the cut scene from the script before.

 

[USS Firefly]

Nothing Palpatine ever told Anakin was a lie.

Hmm, maybe you are right

 

[fireproof78]

Are we supposed to believe that Sidious playing a role in Anakin's creation is a sign that he was destined to become evil? Is that it? Are we supposed to accept this morally infantile form of storytelling?

Why couldn't Disney and Kathleen Kennedy simply leave the matter alone?

This is all based on concepts that Lucas himself came up with. Disney and Kathleen Kennedy are not responsible for everything that is wrong with Star Wars.