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ZOMG! NOT YOU TOO, BACON!

it's a 13% increased chance of heart disease.

so, if you're chances of heart disease are 1%, you know have a 13% chance of getting heart disease.

that's still an 87% chance of NOT getting it.
 
He found that people who consumed about one serving of red meat (beef, pork or lamb) per day had a 13 percent increased risk of mortality, compared with those who were eating very little meat.
I call bullshit. Everybody has a 100 percent risk of mortality.

As for more people dying of cancer, that's mainly because we're living longer nowadays. Which means we're not dying of things like typhoid, cholera, influenza, and tuberculosis -- diseases which used to kill people at much younger ages. The longer you live, the more likely it is that when you do finally kick the bucket, it'll be from some kind of cancer.

I'm not obsessive about my diet. I eat whatever I like. If I start putting on weight or my blood pressure goes up, I just eat less and exercise more. Works like a charm.

These types of studies always talk about the chance of mortality over a given time period. And, any worthwhile study will control for other factors and determine if the meat eaters have a significantly greater cancer rate than the non, or at least less frequent, meat eaters. It's not just as simple as cancer rates rising.

Mr Awe
 
100% of meat eaters were happier and were 100% less annoying to others by not continuously pester people about their pious eating habits!

Jim Gaffigan - "I haven't eaten a banana in a month. You don't hear me braggin' about it."

No one is saying don't eat meat. But, it's good to know the risks associated with any actions and then make an educated decision. By all means, eat red meat if you so choose!

Mr Awe
 
I'd rather risk the shortened lifespan than try to eat tofu.

Tofu is better than its reputation would suggest.

Depends entirely on how it's cooked.

Tofu pretty much takes on the flavor of whatever you're cooking it with. The texture is a little off-putting at first, but once you're used to it it's damned good. Unfortunately, the tastiest way to eat tofu, frying it- totally defeats the purpose of eating it. :lol:

I like meat too much to give it up entirely, but I don't mind tofu. But don't take away my bacon! My favorite sandwich in the world is a fried green tomato BLT. :drool:
 
None of this is new, I grew up hearing that the nitrates (one of the evils listed in processed meats in the study) would kill you. Anyone who thinks bacon isn't completely unhealthy isn't thinking very hard.
 
Huh.... Global Warming's increases at the same rate at which pirates have disappeared from Earth's oceans!

We're an omnivorous species that has fed off the flesh of other animals for eons and we didn't get to the top of the food chain as rulers of the planet by eating plants and playing it safe with meat.

Somehow I suspect that if I continue to eat meat I'll largely be okay given that billions of humans before me managed to live decades-long lives without any problems while subsisting on a diet comprised of meat in some fashion.

Vegetables, fruits and grains all have their important roles too and certainly too much meat can have problems but I'd like to see what the effects of a heavy vegetarian diet could have?

What are the effects of only eating soy?

Why does red-meat always have to be picked on?

Well, I'm not giving up my steak or hamburger for any reason at all. From my cold, dead, hands.

Since when is pork, red meat? Pork is white meat.

It's sort of complicated but for all intents and purposes pork is a "red" meat. The "color" of the meat these days has more to do with its texture, how it cooks, how rare you can eat it, the protein in it and many other factors and pork has much more in common with beef than it does chicken so nowadays it's generally considered a "red" meat (even though it is white.) Poultry and most fish are "white meats." Again more to do with texture, structure, and nutrition than color.
 
I have plenty of friends who are Vegan. I totally respect them and their lifestyle.

That said, they all look like they could be cast as extras in those 'Twilight' movies...
 
Anyone who thinks bacon isn't completely unhealthy isn't thinking very hard.
I had bacon with breakfast several times a week when I was a kid. My mom would pour the drippings from the frying pan into an empty tin can, let it congeal, and throw it in the garbage. You couldn’t flush the stuff down the sink — it would destroy all the plumbing in the house.

So, yeah, even as a child, I figured bacon wasn’t exactly the healthiest food. But damn, it’s tasty. :drool:
Huh.... Global Warming's increases at the same rate at which pirates have disappeared from Earth's oceans!
Why has no one made the obvious connection? Clearly, the solution to global warming is MORE PIRATES!
Well, I'm not giving up my steak or hamburger for any reason at all. From my cold, dead, hands.
From my cold, dead, greasy hands!

Poultry and most fish are "white meats." Again more to do with texture, structure, and nutrition than color.
I always thought it had to do with the class of animal. To me, “red meat” means the flesh of mammals. Although ostrich meat is much closer to beef in flavor, color and texture than it is to chicken or turkey.

As to whether pork is red meat or white meat, it brings to mind the question of the tomato being a fruit or a vegetable. Depends whether you ask a botanist or a cook.
 
Anyone who thinks bacon isn't completely unhealthy isn't thinking very hard.
I had bacon with breakfast several times a week when I was a kid. My mom would pour the drippings from the frying pan into an empty tin can, let it congeal, and throw it in the garbage. You couldn’t flush the stuff down the sink — it would destroy all the plumbing in the house.

Here the older generation used to fry bread IN those drippings, in a pan. And kids would eat that for breakfast.
 
We're an omnivorous species that has fed off the flesh of other animals for eons and we didn't get to the top of the food chain as rulers of the planet by eating plants and playing it safe with meat.

Somehow I suspect that if I continue to eat meat I'll largely be okay given that billions of humans before me managed to live decades-long lives without any problems while subsisting on a diet comprised of meat in some fashion.

I think you're seriously, seriously overstating the amount of meat people ate in ancient times. Grains, vegetables, and fruits didn't just "have their place."

To quote Samantha Carter, "Red means bad."

But meat means good!
 
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