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TNG on blu-ray -- worth it?

Danoz

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Hey everyone,

Is TNG on blu-ray worth the investment? It's great having the shows on Netflix, but what is the difference in viewing quality here? (obviously a fair amount)...

Any strong opinions here?

-- Danny
 
If you are a fan of TNG, I would say they are definitely worth it. And it's pretty easy to find them significantly discounted off of MSRP.

While the episodes on NetFlix are in remastered HD, streaming video is still not quite up to the par of blu ray disc in terms of bitrate, color depth, etc.

Plus, you get all kinds of nifty featurettes and whatnot with the blu rays.

Kor
 
If you are a fan of TNG, I would say they are definitely worth it. And it's pretty easy to find them significantly discounted off of MSRP.

This.

I bought the first five seasons on release day and don't regret the purchases.
 
Yeah, but you can get over 3 years of Netflix for the price of the TNG Blu Rays. That's where they shot themselves in the foot.

Blu Ray picture quality is always gonna be better, but to be honest it isn't THAT much better. Not a $180 better. Unless you have the eyes of an eagle, and DSL internet speeds
 
Are they in HD on Netflix now? For some time, Amazon Prime streaming was the only place that had the HD versions. In fact I just watched a few of them there in the past week or so.

Anyway, even if they're not quite up to Blu Ray quality, it's close, so checking those out first might be worthwhile, if only just to get a taste for the experience.
 
CBS has discontinued, at least for the SD options, all the 1987-1994 masters (except for DVD, and the Syndication package). So even if a streaming service does not have the HD version, the SD version currently available is sourced from the 2011-2014 HD masters.

But for the original poster, yes the TNG Blu-Rays are worth it. Even if your Blu-ray player is connected to an older 4:3 TV with component or S-Video, you will see a difference, as the episodes are no longer being sourced from analog and digital composite video. There are clips from various episodes that were upconverted from 1-inch composite and D2 composite, because the original film was not able to be located, but the total across all 7 season amounts to less than 10 minutes (might even be closer to 5 minutes) with the worst episode being Power Play from Season 5 where about 2 minutes of footage could not be located. And in the Season 3 set, Sins Of The Father is completely HD, as the missing footage that was upconverted on the Star Trek The Next Generation: The Next Level Blu-Ray (which you should get if you want to see a sample of TNG in HD before buying the seaon sets) was found.
 
Season 1-5 you can really tell the difference.

6 and 7 are still a big leap but not as great. Trekcore.com has some great screencaps and video comparisons on YouTube
 
6 and 7 are still a big leap but not as great. Trekcore.com has some great screencaps and video comparisons on YouTube

I was comparing The Pegasus the other day, and could you ever tell the difference right from the opening. In HD Picard, Riker and Pressman are clearly wearing red, whereas the SD version is closer to purple, not to mention but the "Captain Picard Day Sign", in SD it looks like the words are done just in red, but in HD you can see that the inside of each letter is red, while the outside is pink---I was also finding in SD, even over HDMI, that there was a lot of chroma-luma crosstalk on the sign. Plus throughout the entire episode in SD I could see the arrowheads on the com badges crawling with composite dot crawl.
 
Are they in HD on Netflix now?

Yes, I believe so. They slowly changed them over and I think they're all done now.

I agree that Netflix is a good test for whether it's 'worth' it to you.

Personally, it's a significant upgrade from the DVD sets I had and I've upgraded as discounts have become available. I think I have everything but for S6 and S7.
 
I have them all on BD and it was definitely worth the purchase. For me, it was more about the wealth of extras than it was anything else.

Go for it. You only live once.
 
CBS has discontinued, at least for the SD options, all the 1987-1994 masters (except for DVD, and the Syndication package). So even if a streaming service does not have the HD version, the SD version currently available is sourced from the 2011-2014 HD masters.

No. BBC America is still using the original DVD masters for seasons three thru seven. Even the DVD's they released around the Blu-ray's were just the original DVD masters repackaged.
 
I'm going to say definitely worth it. Yes, it's nice that Netflix is now streaming the HD versions, but streaming does not compare, and I've noticed that the audio on the HD Netflix versions definitely isn't as great. You also miss out on all of the newly filmed featurettes. Amazon has never sold the sets anywhere close to MSRP, I've never paid more than $70 per set and that was on release day. There's also now a complete series blu-ray boxed set you can order.
 
I guess it depends on how actually rewatchable you find them to be and whether or not you find intrinsic collector's value in actually owning physical things.

Also, if you absolutely want to watch it with the highest possible image quality, the Blu-rays are a must.
 
6 and 7 are still a big leap but not as great. Trekcore.com has some great screencaps and video comparisons on YouTube

I was comparing The Pegasus the other day, and could you ever tell the difference right from the opening. In HD Picard, Riker and Pressman are clearly wearing red, whereas the SD version is closer to purple, not to mention but the "Captain Picard Day Sign", in SD it looks like the words are done just in red, but in HD you can see that the inside of each letter is red, while the outside is pink---I was also finding in SD, even over HDMI, that there was a lot of chroma-luma crosstalk on the sign. Plus throughout the entire episode in SD I could see the arrowheads on the com badges crawling with composite dot crawl.

Absolutely. There is still a big difference but go back and watch s1 and s2 in SD and it looks like they filmed them on cigarette papers. The leap is HUGE. We only notice it now as our TVs are so good.
 
And you can't get the many hours of behind-the-scenes featurettes, interviews, deleted scenes, alternate versions (e.g. "Measure of a Man"), etc. on Netflix.

Kor
 
I'm around halfway through TNG on Netflix, first time watching it.

I don't want to start watching the Blu-rays in the middle of the series, but you guys are saying they're definitely worth it. Should I buy them now, skip the first and some of the second season, or wait another year or so whenever I decide to re-watch the show?

These first world problems are killing me, mang...
 
I'm around halfway through TNG on Netflix, first time watching it.

I don't want to start watching the Blu-rays in the middle of the series, but you guys are saying they're definitely worth it. Should I buy them now, skip the first and some of the second season, or wait another year or so whenever I decide to re-watch the show?

These first world problems are killing me, mang...

Depends on how rewatchable you think the shows are and whether or not it is something you want to spend extra cash on?
 
CBS has discontinued, at least for the SD options, all the 1987-1994 masters (except for DVD, and the Syndication package). So even if a streaming service does not have the HD version, the SD version currently available is sourced from the 2011-2014 HD masters.

No. BBC America is still using the original DVD masters for seasons three thru seven. Even the DVD's they released around the Blu-ray's were just the original DVD masters repackaged.

Right now CBS has got the HD's available for broadcast if stations go with a network license (and even then they warn you that it is a partial HD, because they include the Journey's End doc in the package, which was not redone in HD). If stations go with the Syndication package then the masters are still the late-80's/early-90's SD masters.
 
CBS has discontinued, at least for the SD options, all the 1987-1994 masters (except for DVD, and the Syndication package). So even if a streaming service does not have the HD version, the SD version currently available is sourced from the 2011-2014 HD masters.

No. BBC America is still using the original DVD masters for seasons three thru seven. Even the DVD's they released around the Blu-ray's were just the original DVD masters repackaged.

Right now CBS has got the HD's available for broadcast if stations go with a network license (and even then they warn you that it is a partial HD, because they include the Journey's End doc in the package, which was not redone in HD). If stations go with the Syndication package then the masters are still the late-80's/early-90's SD masters.

I don't know? All I know is that BBC America runs seasons one and two in HD, from the new masters, and seasons three thru seven in SD from the original masters.
 
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