Basically, yes — though these days it’s most appropriate when the writers take that approach in an ultimately serialized show, since the latter is much more common today. But for 60s TV (say), yes, absolutely—it’s just that it wouldn’t have been called out so much back then because it was expected.
Tim Russ was brilliant as Tuvok
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I mean, most shows in the 90's were episodic. It's not really a reset button, it's just how TV was done back then.
Same deal as the 60s. Sure, it’s the reset button again, not called out much because standard.
Also, understand: “reset button” isn’t (necessarily) pejorative. It’s just a shorthand description of the fact of “things being put back as they were”, and so entirely applies as a descriptive term.
Right, but Voyager is a 90's show, not a 60's show. To me, "reset button" suggests a show with ongoing story arcs where this week, an episode that we'd expect to have long-term story arc progress is simply reset to status quo just in time for the end credits to roll. If all episodes (except the odd two-parter) get end with a reset to status quo, that's not a "resent button," that's just episodic television. It's not a big deal that Voyager is presented this way as most other 90's shows were also presented this way.
I guess, but to me, it's like calling water wet.
Too lazy to.
His fussing over-polite respectfulness, his obsequiousness, the position of cute or funny alien / robot / animal as if it was a kids cartoon, the character design, the hair, that suit...
I could go on. I won't.
#1 I mean, didn't Spock also fuss over such things?
#2 Does obsequiousness not describe many Star Trek characters?
#3 How the hell is Tuvok cute or funny?
#4 He's an alien, not a robot, not an animal.
#5 How are you comparing this to a children's cartoon? Voyager is not Ducktales.
#6 You don't like Vulcans?
#9 That's Tim Russ's actual hair. WTF?
#10 The same suit everyone else on the show was wearing, except Neelix, Kes, and Seven?
My bad. Gone off on a tangent and I was still talking about Neelix. Coherently doing two things at once appears to be beyond me.#1 I mean, didn't Spock also fuss over such things?
#2 Does obsequiousness not describe many Star Trek characters?
#3 How the hell is Tuvok cute or funny?
#4 He's an alien, not a robot, not an animal.
#5 How are you comparing this to a children's cartoon? Voyager is not Ducktales.
#6 You don't like Vulcans?
#9 That's Tim Russ's actual hair. WTF?
#10 The same suit everyone else on the show was wearing, except Neelix, Kes, and Seven?
Tuvok ? As I said, I can't really put my finger on it. I just didn't warm to him.
Now your complaint makes sense.
Reset button episodes are excessively episodic, featuring events that should have consequences and then just brushing them off at the end so that nothing ever changes.
TOS was the most episodic show of all of them, but if Kirk talked a computer to death to free a world, that computer stayed dead and the world stayed free. Consequences stuck, no reset button. Voyager was more about the journey home, so the dramatic life-changing events were often inflicted upon the ship and crew, and it felt like something should've come from it.
Right, episodic TV.
TOS, TNG, most of DS9 (S1-5), VOY, and ENT (S1-2) were episodic. Episodes resolved by the end credits.
I am aware DS9 had story arcs pre-Dominion War, but most episodes were resolved by the end credits.
Was Voyager any different that that? If Janeway killed a computer, it usually stayed dead, right? So I don't see how that shows the reset button being different between the shows. TOS pretty much ignored the consequences of deaths and damage on the ship. McCoy leaves the ship to die and marry some woman. By the end of the episode he's cured and leaves the woman. Nothing is ever mentioned about her again. The show has been reset to the status quo.
There are definitely examples of TOS hitting the reset button, Voyager doing the TOS thing, and Voyager not resetting to the status quo (mobile emitter, Seven of Nine). I don't mean to claim that it's a uniquely Voyager problem. I'm just saying that 'reset button' doesn't mean 'typical episodic TV', it means a jarring lack of consequences.
It’s not a big deal. In episodic TV, no, the reset button isn’t.
You asked for the definition saying you didn’t know what it meant; I’ve provided it; and now you’re arguing with it, saying that it’s not what it means “to you”. So it very much feels—and for all I know it isn’t true, but that’s how it comes across—like you’ve asked this and other previous questions not for information, but to have something to argue with. I honestly do not think you will find this a fruitful approach long term, should it be so.
No doubt, Tim Russ is a brilliant actor.Tuvok was my favorite on the show by far, though I do like everyone in the main cast. There was just something fun about Tuvok and how Tim Russ played him. Whereas Spock overcompensated for being half-human, Tim Russ played Tuvok brilliantly as the porr irritated Vulcan who just wanted to mediate in the corner and dodge Neelix.
When Neelix left Voyager, I think his hardest goodbye was with Tuvok.
But imo there hasn't been any bad actors in Voyager. The problem was about he writing...
Maybe. I found most episodes entertaining, and if the plot was lame, the cast made it work.
One of my favorite parts of Voyager was the interactions between Tuvok and Neelix. So many great moments culminating in that little wonderful dance Tuvok does when Neelix leaves the ship. So much conveyed in such a small thing.
My mom and I watched that together back in 2001. I'm pretty sure she cried at the episode's ending. I can't remember, it's been 23 years.
Trek has some good double acts. Tuvok and Neelix. Quark and Odo. Reed and Trip. And of course, Spock and McCoy.
And it looked like they were trying for Pulaski and Data in TNG.
