"The Woman Who Lived" Grading and Discussion Thread
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A lot of those jokes only do make sense to a modern audience. For example, did the term "well hung" mean the same thing in 1651 as it does now?
^ Actually a similar joke - though it's 'well-hanged' - appears in Shakespeare's Twelfth Night, believed to have been written about 1623.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id...v=onepage&q=twelfth night well hanged&f=false
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id...v=onepage&q=twelfth night well hanged&f=false
Shakespeare used the term. There are also suggestions that the phrase originated DUE to hanging, as improper hangings could lead to strangulation rather than neck-breaking, which can result in erections in men.
I think the bigger problem was the scripts. I loved Peter Capaldi's performance, but aside from "Flatline" and "The Last Christmas," and to a lesser extent, "Mummy on the Orient Express" and "Listen," the scripts were terrible. Last season was by far my least favorite season since the show returned, and that was despite, not because of, Peter Capaldi.
This season is turning out a lot better, although not quite great.
^Yes, the scripts this year have overall been better too, I'd definitely agree there.
But even in the worst scripted episodes, I still found Matt Smith to be the most watchable lead actor of the modern era.
But even in the worst scripted episodes, I still found Matt Smith to be the most watchable lead actor of the modern era.
The problem (for me) is that much like the 4th Doctor became Tom Baker, the 12th has become Capaldi. He wears Capaldi's clothes (some of them literally are his clothes) and whips out that bloody guitar every five minutes because Capaldi plays the guitar.
At least with Tom we had a few years before he got to that point.
Agreed on all points. Capaldi has been great. But, last series scripts have been the worst set (taken as a whole) since DW returned to TV. This series is better, but not great.
Mr Awe
I rather like the guitar, it's funny how people think Matt Smith's Dcotor was inspired by the second Doctor, but people seem to forget the recorder. Capaldi has the role his own now. I'm not sure about this storyline, but yet again the Doctor has to deal with the fact that he leaves things and people behind while he keeps running away. And last season delt with death as well, in fact I wondered about the mention of the afterlife, Missy's Gallifreyian machine is still out there and can still function.
The clothes don't bother me so much. I actually think the current look suits him better than the faux Pertwee look he originally had. I agree on the guitar though, they're over doing it a bit.
Yeah last season was a bit of a damp squib, its hard too put my finger on why but I think it took Capaldi a while to find the right tone for the character, unlike Matt who hit the ground running. I am enjoying S9 way more than 8 at the moment.
Forgot to say earlier but chalk me up as someone else who felt there should have been a gap between the two EPs. I think I'd have sandwiched the zygon 2 parter between em!
For me, series 9 is better than 8 because of the lack of one character: Danny Pink.
Damn, I really hated that character.
Damn, I really hated that character.
I have thus far found Series 8 and 9 to be roughly the same quality. Series 7, for me, was the worst of the Moffat era, with Series 5 still standing out as the best. Series 6 kept the momentum going for the first half, but from Let's Kill Hitler onwards the whole saga seemed to derail and it still hasn't really recovered.
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