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The United Federation of Planets centennial. 2161 - 2261

Shawnster

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Who do you see as the founding members of the United Federation of Planets? By Kirk's era as Enterprise captain in 2266, how far had the Federation expanded? Who was encountered? What species and locations from later episodes were already known quantities and who/what was yet to be discovered?
 
Well, we know the four main founding members (Earth, Vulcan, Tellar, Andor), and it seems likely that Denobula was an early member. A couple of other races were present for the establishment of the coalition of planets that would become the Federation in six years.
 
The longstanding belief from 40 years of non-canonical sources prior to 2005 had the founding members as Earth, Vulcan, Andor, Tellar, and Alpha Centauri (back when the prevailing thought was that Zefram Cochrane was an alien from said planetary system.) But while the latter has obviously changed to an Earth colony, as far as I know there is still no canonical evidence of exactly who founded the Federation. We can of course make logical deductions that the humans, Vulcans, Andorians and Tellarites were founding members, but we don’t know that for sure because ENT never showed us the actual founding other than a scene of Archer right before giving his speech that we never see.
For all we know Denobula could also be a founding member and, say, the Tellarites weren’t.

As for Federation members by 2266, we have proof that it consisted of humans, Vulcans, Andorians, Tellarites, Caitians, Edoans, the various races we saw in “Journey to Babel,” and whatever alien crew members we saw aboard the Kelvin in Star Trek ‘09 and in DSC and SNW.
 
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We saw humans, Andorians, Vulcans, Tellarites, Denobulans, and two races I wasn't sure of at the formation of the Coalition of Planets in 2155. However, there were undoubtedly other friendly species in the area who would have been interested. I get the sense that by 2161, the Coalition was flourishing, so the decision was made to form a more permanent body, with a formal joining process.
 
and whatever alien crew members we saw aboard the Kelvin in Star Trek ‘09
Green Orions? Maybe in Kirk's sack, but the blue or green Orions never seemed part of the Federation in TOS/TAS. Orions were not represented at the Babel conference; plus they were portrayed as space pirates. On the other hand, Marta was a green Orion being treated at a Federation Medical Asylum, so, they could be part of the Federation, after all. Maybe Orions are some sort of treaty state since they are fully encompassed by Federation territory and not a voting member, but individuals can go into Starfleet, maybe? :p:D
 
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Green Orions? Maybe in Kirk's sack, but the blue or green Orions never seemed part of the Federation in TOS/TAS. Orions were not represented at the Babel conference; plus they were portrayed as space pirates. On the other hand, Marta was a green Orion being treated at a Federation Medical Asylum, so, they could be part of the Federation, after all. Maybe Orions are some sort of treaty state since they are fully encompassed by Federation territory and not a voting member, but individuals can go into Starfleet, maybe? :p:D

That’s true; there have been non-Federation members in Starfleet, like Ro Laren.
 
We saw humans, Andorians, Vulcans, Tellarites, Denobulans, and two races I wasn't sure of at the formation of the Coalition of Planets in 2155.

Terra Prime showed Andorians, Vulcans, Tellarites, Denobulans, Rigelians, Ktarians, and Coridanites.

Whether or not they all actually joined the UFP at the beginning is not clear, but a reasonable assumption, perhaps?
 
Well we know from Mike Sussman that it was Brannon's intentions that the aliens mentioned in "Zero Hour" be the founding members and that Sussman used his fanon knowledge to feed the names to Brannon at his request.
 
Whether or not they all actually joined the UFP at the beginning is not clear, but a reasonable assumption, perhaps?
Oddly, the Coridanites didn't join the Federation until 2268. Possibly, the UFP charter set certain minimum requirements for member worlds (united government, no caste-based discrimination, etc.) that the Coridanites weren't able to meet at first.
 
I remember when I was writing fanfics, I actually did some kind of crazy math and began to extrapolate backwards from 2379 how big the Federation was during TOS. I started off with the Federation covering an area of 8000 light-years with 150+ members in Picard's time and went back over a century to Kirk's time. I imagined that the Federation spanned just under 3900 light-years back then and had exactly 74 member worlds during the first season of TOS. Don't ask me how I came up with those numbers, because it was a long time ago and I only remember my final results, but I think I took into account the Federation having alternating periods of rapid expansion and then some years of no expansion since its inception.
 
I get the sense that by 2161, the Coalition was flourishing

Possibly, though Earth would likely still be recovering from the Romulan War.

It's somewhat unclear if Earth was alone in that conflict, or if it had significant support from its allies. The fact it's referred to as the Earth-Romulan War seems to suggest that Earth was mostly on its own.

I wonder about the circumstances behind that. What good is a Coalition of Planets if one of its founding members has to fight a war on its own?
 
It's somewhat unclear if Earth was alone in that conflict, or if it had significant support from its allies. The fact it's referred to as the Earth-Romulan War seems to suggest that Earth was mostly on its own

War names are sometimes POV. The French and Indian war, for example, was not fought between France and Native North Americans. This is the term the US uses to refer to part of the Seven Years' War and the Sixty Years' War which was fought between Great Britain and France, along with their respective North American colonies and allied Native Americans.

Ukraine war is between Ukraine and Russia, but other countries are also involved in support capacities or other behind the scenes actions. Same with the war in Gaza.

So Vulcans and other civilizations may have supplied Earth with support without engaging in combat.

T'Pol knew how to correct Hoshi's pronunciation of "Romulan". It seems the Vulcans knew more about the Romulans than they let on.
 
Earth, Andoria, Tellar and Vulcan seem to be the founding members. At least in Discovery. Outside that hall in the Season 1 finale the only emblems there consisted of United Earth, Vulcan, Andoria and Tellar.
 
Wonder if size mattered. Earth, Vulcan, etc... had off world colonies and fleets of ships.

Denobula simply may not have had any colonies beyond their home system and no fleet to speak of. Therefore they may not have had much say in the talks leading up to the Federation founding.

Maybe like Luxembourg or Liechtenstein being not as instrumental in the UN founding as the US or USSR
 
T'Pol knew how to correct Hoshi's pronunciation of "Romulan". It seems the Vulcans knew more about the Romulans than they let on.
According to Q, a member of the Continuum ("Quinn") accidentally triggered a war between the Vulcans and the Romulans that lasted a century or so. If we take the reactions of both Spock and T'Pol towards the Romulans, however, it might be safe to think that yes, the Vulcans did know about the Romulans for quite awhile, but that fact wasn't common knowledge.
 
Its supposed to be Earth, Vulcan, Andoria, Tellar and Alpha Centauri, with Mars joining within the next couple of years after the founding. Rigel is next, with joining dates varying (there are 5 different dates, though its worth noting that Rigel canonically has 12 planets, and in beta canon has 16 planets total, so its not like the entire system joins at once). But the entirely of the Rigel system is a member by the time Archer is President of the Federation.

I do not know if Denobula ever joined, considering Denobula’s stance on genetic engineering is wildly different from Earth, and the Federation as a whole. I know Denobula is still around in the 24th century, but that’s far different from joining.

I imagine that a number of Archer's first contacts joined between the founding and during Kirk's captaincy.

The Trill probably joined in the late 22nd century.

The Starfleet:Year One novel suggest Arbazans are a founding species. Note that Arbazans were only sen on DS9. That novel also suggests that the Vobilin are also founding members of the Federation

Starfleet: year One also notes that worlds of Dedderai, Dopterius and Osadj either are, or are under consideration, to join the Federation.

Terra Prime showed Andorians, Vulcans, Tellarites, Denobulans, Rigelians, Ktarians, and Coridanites.


Whether or not they all actually joined the UFP at the beginning is not clear, but a reasonable assumption, perhaps?

It just means they were willing to listen. Not that they were joining

The Star Trek: The Beginning screenplay had the Coalition of Planets members (circa 2159) as Earth, Vulcan, Andoria, Tellar, Rigel, and Denobula. So, going by the screenplay, some of them weren’t feeling the Coalition.

For some reason my head canon has Deltans as founding members but I don't remember why I think that

Deltans were known to space boomers. But beta canon suggests they didn’t attain warp drive in the early 2180s. Canoically, no one really knows what the history of the Deltans are.

It's somewhat unclear if Earth was alone in that conflict, or if it had significant support from its allies. The fact it's referred to as the Earth-Romulan War seems to suggest that Earth was mostly on its own.


I wonder about the circumstances behind that. What good is a Coalition of Planets if one of its founding members has to fight a war on its own?

There are plausible reasons none of them would participate.

Vulcan…T’Pau is a pacifist, an a leader of the Vulcan government. If she’s in charge of Vuclan for the majority of the war, that explains Vulcan’s lack of involvement. Its was noted that she got rid of most of the Vulcan fleet not long after taking over.

Rigel…in beta canon, its implied that they are less technologically advanced than Earth by the time the NX-01 is launched, despite being a spacefaring species for tens of thousands of years. So, they are out by default. Also, if Earth figures out that the Romulans are Vulcanoid, and draw conclusions with the Rigellians being Vuclanoid, Rigel might have been screened out of the war altogether.

Denobula…they might have a military, no one knows. All we know is that they were once at war with the Antarans, and that Denobulans are valued for medical and scientific reasons. Denobula might have turned their military a self defense force (like Japan's military) after their war with the Antarans and might not be of much help.

Andoria… Andorians seem very nationalist, and might have ignored Earth if it did not concern Andoria. The Andorian government is bigger than Shran and the Aenar, the latter of whom are pacifists. Plus, they might not think much of Earth after the Terra Prime incident, despite the work Archer and Shran put into building the relationship between their two worlds.

Tellarites…they were at odds with Coridan over trade with Orion Syndicate. Plus they argue a lot, and at some point, Earth probably wanted unity instead of any dissension, even though the Tellaraites are just practicing critical thinking loudly.

Coridan…in addition to trading with the Orion Syndicate, Coridan is a place of such importance in the Vulcan-Andorian conflict that Andorians for forbidden from stepping foot on the planet. And is a Vulcan puppet state, that's also in a civil war. Disregarding what happens to Coridan in the ENT novel The Good That Men Do, they just might have been a political hot potato as is and was ignored. Even though they had the fastest ships in the quadrant.
 
IIRC in the novels Earth received support from the Vulcans, Andorians and Tellarites, but they weren't directly involved.
 
The Vulcan-Romulan war could mean anything. Something that took place while the Romulan faction was still on Vulcan. Or something at any point during the 2000 years since they left. We don’t know if the Vulcans even knew the Romulans they were fighting were those same emigrants who left their world so long ago. Or because it’s the time-traveling Q referencing it, if it’s a chilling conflict yet to come.

What are we to make of the Rigelians? Are they a unified solar system of multiple species and protectorates under a single banner, are they multiple independent members…TOS might have presented one of the planets in the system as an Earth colony as well. Problematic as the “Orion Colony.”

I do lament Alpha Centauri not being fifth founding member. I don’t know if I like the idea of Zefram Cochrane being a native (not immigrant) Alpha Centaurian though. It struck me as a great opportunity to add a non-humanoid founding member to the Federation. A “little green man” from Alpha Centauri. Or a little green Thermian…er…octopus.
 
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I think something that's really important to remember is that planets or species per se do not join the Federation. When characters use those words, they're speaking euphemistically. Rather, political entities join the Federation. Earth per se did not join the Federation; United Earth joined the Federation. Bajor did not apply to join the Federation; the Bajoran Republic applied to join the Federation.

Think of it like this: Long Island is not a state of the United States, though it is part of the United States. Rather, the State of New York is a state of the U.S., and Long Island is part of the State of New York's territory. Earth is not a Federation Member; United Earth is a Federation Member, and the planet called Earth is part of United Earth's territory.
 
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