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The Tomorrow War (Chris Pratt, Yvonne Strahovski, J.K. Simmons) on Prime Video

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The world is stunned when a group of time travelers arrive from the year 2051 to deliver an urgent message: Thirty years in the future mankind is losing a global war against a deadly alien species. The only hope for survival is for soldiers and civilians from the present to be transported to the future and join the fight. Among those recruited is high school teacher and family man Dan Forester (Chris Pratt). Determined to save the world for his young daughter, Dan teams up with a brilliant scientist (Yvonne Strahovski) and his estranged father (J.K. Simmons) in a desperate quest to rewrite the fate of the planet.

Didn't see a thread for this. Comes out tomorrow but Amazon released it several hours early. Looks pretty generic and forgettable, kind of like the last couple movies Paramount either sold to Amazon (Without Remorse) or pulled from a theatrical release to stream on their own platform (Infinite).
 
Yep, forgettable, generic but entertaining, it's a way to pass a few hours.

It feels like the script was written for a video game. It's talky moments, mission, talky moments, mission, talky moments, mission etc. It's all "we need to blah blah the thing to get the thing and do the thing."
Paramount made a good deal here selling it for $200 million to Amazon.
 
It was enjoyable. Much much better than Vanquish and Rogue Hostage which are total shit shows. Infinite was kind of ok but not much beyond that.
 
It was watchable but it was also extremely stupid. The only people in the movie smart enough to figure stuff out and ask the right questions -- on the entire planet -- were Yvonne Strahovski, Betty Gilpin and a student.
 
At the end of Star Ship Troopers they issue appropriate weapons, where you don't have to hit the target a hundred times square to wound.

Machine shotguns.
 
It was watchable but it was also extremely stupid. The only people in the movie smart enough to figure stuff out and ask the right questions -- on the entire planet -- were Yvonne Strahovski, Betty Gilpin and a student.

Yeah, there were definitely some really stupid elements. For example,

The war strategy seemed really dumb.

Basically, they wait until the war is hopeless, recruit a bunch of civilians who are scared and untrained, only recruit about 1000 per week which would not be enough to turn the tide of war anyway, don't even show them what the aliens look like or give them any intel, and just throw them into the war as canon fodder where only 30% survive. That's not a winning strategy. It seems the general was trained at the starship troopers military academy. LOL.

And we see later that they order an air strike. Why not just carpet bomb the aliens? Why even bother with ground troops? And if you are going to order air strikes, why not just nuke the aliens instead of just having a couple F-22's drop a few bombs?

Also, we know future Muri has a plan to capture a female alien and develop the toxin that will kill all the aliens. So why not just recruit some elite soldiers and some toxin experts from the past to send forward to help Muri on her crucial mission? Why even bother with throwing canon fodder into the war that is clearly not working?

Frankly, I don't think recruiting soldiers from the past even makes sense. Why not send future soldiers and future tech back into the past to prepare Earth before the war even starts? That would seem more effective than just sending cannon fodder into a future war that is already hopeless. At the very least, they should have started recruiting from the past sooner when the war was not hopeless yet. Honestly, since the war was already hopeless, there should have been more emphasis earlier on preventing the war in the past from ever starting instead of waiting until the 3rd act of the movie for our heroes to figure it out.

I did really like the father-daughter arc. But Muri did not want Dan to help with the mission to capture the female alien and did not want him to help her develop the toxin. So what exactly was Dan's purpose? Anybody could have sent the toxin back to the past, it did not need to be Dan.
 
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Yeah, there were definitely some really stupid elements. For example,

The war strategy seemed really dumb.

Basically, they wait until the war is hopeless,
They only just invented Time Travel. They used it as soon as it was invented.
recruit a bunch of civilians who are scared and untrained, only recruit about 1000 per week

They ran out of military, before they moved onto civilians. That's millions of people.
which would not be enough to turn the tide of war anyway, don't even show them what the aliens look like or give them any intel, and just throw them into the war as canon fodder where only 30% survive. That's not a winning strategy. It seems the general was trained at the starship troopers military academy. LOL.
Lol.
And we see later that they order an air strike. Why not just carpet bomb the aliens? Why even bother with ground troops?

These things clear planets for colonization. They are a biological machine. They must breed like tribbles. Asexually and in vast number with geometric expansion. The toxins they already had clear men. Then a week later one woman has birthed a million new babies, who are soldiers a week after that.
And if you are going to order air strikes, why not just nuke the aliens instead of just having a couple F-22's drop a few bombs?

Also, we know future Muri has a plan to capture a female alien and develop the toxin that will kill all the aliens. So why not just recruit some elite soldiers and some toxin experts from the past to send forward to help Muri on her crucial mission? Why even bother with throwing canon fodder into the war that is clearly not working?

Time.

They need time to figure out the toxin, and then send it to the past. Which is no longer their past. The time machine created an alternate timeline, that could be saved, but the future did not have the tools to save the past until the nearly the end of the movie.
Frankly, I don't think recruiting soldiers from the past even makes sense. Why not send future soldiers and future tech back into the past to prepare Earth before the war even starts? That would seem more effective than just sending cannon fodder into a future war that is already hopeless. At the very least, they should have started recruiting from the past sooner when the war was not hopeless yet. Honestly, since the war was already hopeless, there should have been more emphasis earlier on preventing the war in the past from ever starting instead of waiting until the 3rd act of the movie for our heroes to figure it out.

I'm going to get dark.

Our world is over populated and it could stand to lose 4 or 5 billion people.

Why save the world from space monsters if it's just going to turn into MAD MAX when the oil and clean water runs out?
I did really like the father-daughter arc. But Muri did not want Dan to help with the mission to capture the female alien and did not want him to help her develop the toxin. So what exactly was Dan's purpose? Anybody could have sent the toxin back to the past, it did not need to be Dan.

She didn't know that he was coming in that reinforcement.

Are you suggesting that she was waiting for Dan until she started working on the poison?

Or that she was pretending that she didn't know that Dan was coming with that intake?

Or did she designated exactly when Dan was drafted to coincide with the creation of the poison?
 
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They only just invented Time Travel. They used it as soon as it was invented.

Ok.

They ran out of military, before they moved onto civilians. That's millions of people.

I know that. But that just proves my point about how bad their war strategy was. They recruited millions of trained soldiers and only 30% came back. Shouldn't that tell you that your strategy is not working? And if you went through millions of trained soldiers from the best militaries in the world and only 30% survived, sending untrained civilians is not going to work any better. You are basically just sending canon fodder at that point.

They need time to figure out the toxin, and then send it to the past. Which is no longer their past. The time machine created an alternate timeline, that could be saved, but the future did not have the tools to save the past until the nearly the end of the movie.

The movie does not really mention alternate timelines. But ok.

She didn't know that he was coming in that reinforcement.

Are you suggesting that she was waiting for Dan until she started working on the poison?

Or that she was pretending that she didn't know that Dan was coming with that intake?

Or did she allocate exactly when Dan was drafted to coincide with the creation of the poison?

That's my question. There seemed to be a lot of coincidences.
 
Who is to say that they weren’t trying to prep the world for the invasion while also sending recruits to the future to buy time for the toxin to become ready?

Despite the plot holes, I found it to be pretty enjoyable and I liked the father/daughter dynamic.

The one thing that bugged me right off the bat was the classroom scene when Dan asked the students what they wanted to discuss and the only kid who raised his hand wanted to talk about volcanos. The fact that this was going to play a role later in the movie was SOOOO obvious.
 
Enjoyable movie lot better than the other Pap from a streaming movie.
The story was okay . being from the military I kind of face palmed a good amount during the movie. Especially the end.
But sending civilians without seemingly ANY training is ... Dumb... There going to die.. All of them. This isn't the Zap Branagan School of infantry! They don't have kill limits!! Even a weeks worth of training would help save some of them, just to learn how to aim and work the gun..
Speaking of the gun.. Worthless.. AR knockoff with to small a bullet.. Maybe some fireteams? 1 wth the AR, one with a heavy gun, one with an auto shotgun...grenade launcher?? At least use some beta mags over the standard 30 round magazines.. Owell.

Enjoyable if you turn off ur mind, recommended! :bolian:
 
Who is to say that they weren’t trying to prep the world for the invasion while also sending recruits to the future to buy time for the toxin to become ready?

The future took all the guns and the bullets from the past.

Maybe the reason they had the shitty little little guns they had at the end was all the heavy ordinance had already been shipped to the future.

I'm guessing there were no factories in the future.

They may have been moving people once a week, but the grenade launchers and nukes were being dumped up river constantly by the ton, until the past ran out.

Yes the past had factories.

But if they need to prepare for a world war, they are starting from zero, which is a critical limit.
 
Well, they had 12 months to Dan the Man got beamed up, the arms manufactures would have probably went overtime making weapons, and hell, Some of 300 million guns in the USof A would have been donated to the cause.

I subscribe to the Burt Gummer approach.. FULL AUTO PREFERABLY BELT FED!
 
Enjoyable movie lot better than the other Pap from a streaming movie.
It was originally supposed to be a theatrical release so it had a certain quality those other movies may not have had.

Time.

They need time to figure out the toxin, and then send it to the past. Which is no longer their past. The time machine created an alternate timeline, that could be saved, but the future did not have the tools to save the past until the nearly the end of the movie.
From the description in the movie it sounded like it was just one timeline and the time travel was just going forward and going back between two points.
 
Lots of escapism fun. I think it might have run a little long. They could have lost maybe 20 minutes. The action scenes were tense though because of just how hard it was to kill the aliens. Chris Pratt is basically playing Chris Pratt but he is one of those actors that can get away with that because of their charm. It's kind of like how you would always want Burt Reynolds to be playing Burt Reynolds or Jack Nicholson to always be Jack. Even when he was the Joker he was still basically Jack. Pratt is always just going o be a lovable goofball in everything.
 
It was originally supposed to be a theatrical release so it had a certain quality those other movies may not have had.


From the description in the movie it sounded like it was just one timeline and the time travel was just going forward and going back between two points.

The two time lines were bridged.

We saw the futurians look at historical records of their draftees.

Dan leaves his beautiful wife, and then dies in a car crash.

He's supposed to die in 2028.

Everyone they sent to the future is supposed to die before the future they are sent to.

70 percent of them die in the faraway future instead of the near furture.

7 million people are missing from the past.

The past, 2021, can never ever become the same 2053 that was under attack from aliens because...
They already killed all the white spikes in 2021.

2021 a different time line, and had been from the moment 2053 backstepped.
 
It could also be argued that the timeline just changed along with these jumps. The historical records of the draftees are what they are before anyone jumps to the future. The point the film was trying to make was that the children of the future need help from their families of the past. If's it's just another timeline I doubt anyone would be motivated to fight for a world that is not theirs.
 
I enjoyed this one for the most part. It started off a little slow, but the second act was quite thrilling, engrossing, and fast paced. Unfortunately I think it fell apart in the third act. I really liked the design of the creatures, some of the most formidable and terrifying I've seen since the xenomorphs. And I liked how the film built the suspense around them.
 
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