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Spoilers The Strange New Worlds Starship Thread™

Okay, here's a trivia question:

How many windows are in the upper edge of the SNW Enterprise saucer? I count 88, but there's not a single good image I can find that shows all of them, so that's an estimate based on a number of different angles.
 
The strobing effect on the TOS nacelles was supposedly the result of a combination of three things:

  1. The blink rate of the "Christmas lights;"
  2. The rotational speed of the vanes/blades;
  3. The frame rate of the camera.

None of these three speeds was synced to any of the others, which resulted in a pulsing effect which was mysteriously both regular and yet continually varying.

You can see a really nice, if washed-out, example of the weird effect here:

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At 3:22 and at 5:4- in this video you can see comparisons of the original spinning effect with the CG effect created for the Remastered version of "The Tholian Web:"

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Another point is that the lights were not all one color inside the TOS nacelles. There's a quite noticeable blue one, as well as green, yellow, red, etc.
 
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The Discovery Enterprise has spinning blades in it's nacelles...
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Where is that from?
 
Screencap of final scene of S1's "Will You Take My Hand" from Trek Core. First appearance of the ship. Looks like it has the spinny blades, but a lot more diffused than what's shown here now.
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Diffused, different (very blue) lighting. The shot from The Trouble With Edward was extremely dark (more like true space on the dark side of a planet). I looked at some scenes from Such Sweet Sorrow 1&2. Also visible there, just not as crisp, plus mostly action scenes.
 
Okay, here's a trivia question:

How many windows are in the upper edge of the SNW Enterprise saucer? I count 88, but there's not a single good image I can find that shows all of them, so that's an estimate based on a number of different angles.


And...found the answer.

The model on display in Chicago includes most if not every change to the Enterprise made for SNW. Found an image of the relevant part of the saucer. It has 88 windows along the edge, along with barely-visible RCS thrusters which seem to have been there all along:

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The lounge windows at the front are a little bit taller than most. The rest of the windows seem to match the ones seen in Pike's quarters so I'm going to presume the senior staff sleep along the rim of the saucer.
 
Yeah, my guess for now is that the taller windows at the front mark the location of Not Ten Forward. ;)

The big poster rendering of the ship has taller windows in general - twice as tall - as appear on the physical model or as far as I can tell on the rendered mesh. One tends to assume that, while the image on the poster may be based on a photograph of one of the models, there's either some close-up perspective distortion or some artistic license taken in overpainting.
 
The lounge windows at the front are a little bit taller than most. The rest of the windows seem to match the ones seen in Pike's quarters so I'm going to presume the senior staff sleep along the rim of the saucer.
OpSec-wise, that seems like an odd design choice. You'd think that Starfleet would have learned from mistakes from the Archer era.
 
You're talking about an organization that puts the main control center of the ship on a bubble right at the top of the ship. There's nothing any more "mistaken" about Archer-era design than 24th century starship design. Or the 32nd, for that matter.

But then, there's no "Starfleet" to make such decisions on the basis of practicality. It's all just cool-looking art design. :D
 
Picard's quarters on the Enterprise D are just above 10 Forward, so they hadn't changed their mind by that point either.
 
Picard's quarters on the Enterprise D are just above 10 Forward, so they hadn't changed their mind by that point either.

To be fair the Enterprise-D was so big that every single crew member could have had a sprawling suite with windows. The fact that some lived in windowless shoeboxes even when they had families, and ensigns had to share with each other, was... odd.
 
Now I'm imagining Picard in bed while the noise from 10 Forward filters in from below. He bangs on the floor and demands they keep it down.

Picard's quarters are on deck eight, according to the published blueprints. Maybe Guinan went to setting number two.
 
Yeah, nothing in Canon never said there were only ever 12 built. Kirk's line was in the present tense. Meaning there could have been more before that episode that might have been destroyed or damaged too much to be repaired, and more could have been built after that episode.
I just rediscovered Whitfield and Roddenberry Sr.'s book, The Making of Star Trek. Page 203: "The Enterprise-class starships have been in existence for about forty years..."

Subject to correction re: the name of the ship class, but no one on any series production team has ever gone back to explicitly reject the "about forty years" past of the class itself. Room for at least two production blocks, and Eagle 956 and Constellation 1017 could have been part of Block One.
 
I just rediscovered Whitfield and Roddenberry Sr.'s book, The Making of Star Trek. Page 203: "The Enterprise-class starships have been in existence for about forty years..."

Subject to correction re: the name of the ship class, but no one on any series production team has ever gone back to explicitly reject the "about forty years" past of the class itself. Room for at least two production blocks, and Eagle 956 and Constellation 1017 could have been part of Block One.

Given that the Constitution herself is NCC-1700 though... :shrug: But we already know that NCC numbers make no sense.
 
But the registry numbers do make chronological sense.
Nothing to say there hasn't been two Constitution-class ships named Constitution.

Yet.
 
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