Spoilers The Strange New Worlds Starship Thread™

[Mudd]

Visual continuity is a thing. You can fuss about how important it is all you want, but it's something that attentive crew people take seriously.

I know of an instance where an artist on TNG estimated that the production spent around 3000 dollars in post to correct a turbolift panel that was strobing in the wrong direction in one shot.

Fans being dismissive of it with what are apparently intended to be pithy little aphorisms doesn't make it not so.

 

[Mudd]

So Rogue One making Darth Vader look exactly like he did in ANH is silly to you? Having Peter Capaldi’s Doctor battle the Mondasian ‘Tenth Planet’ Cybermen was silly too?

The Mondasian Cybermen were pretty damned silly, yeah.

And Star Wars has an overall different look than Star Trek and is somewhat more adaptable in that regard. A relatively low budget it may have had for a film, but they spent many times what Trek ever could on detailed design and set construction. It also was made years after 2001, which film redefined the level of detail and design sophistication for space movies and influenced everything that came after it - even relatively low-budget and schlocky films like Battle Beyond The Stars and Ice Pirates.

Except for the Star Trek movies, of course.

If they advertise their show as taking place in the same universe as another show, I expect that new show to resemble the old show where those shows overlap.

Which Strange New Worlds does, to an astonishing degree - more so than anyone could reasonably expect.

 

[Dukhat]

The Mondasian Cybermen were pretty damned silly, yeah.

I thought they were quite effective, and a bit scary to boot. YMMV.

And Star Wars has an overall different look than Star Trek and is somewhat more adaptable in that regard. A relatively low budget it may have had for a film, but they spent many times what Trek ever could on detailed design and set construction. It also was made years after 2001, which film redefined the level of detail and design sophistication for space movies and influenced everything that came after it - even relatively low-budget and schlocky films like Battle Beyond The Stars and Ice Pirates.

Except for the Star Trek movies, of course.

Doesn’t make it any more or less silly. It’s all a matter of opinion. I didn’t find Trials & Tribble-ations or the ENT Mirror universe episodes to be ‘silly’ just because of their TOS elements. I found them to be silly for entirely different reasons.

 

[Tuskin38]

So Rogue One making Darth Vader look exactly like he did in ANH is silly to you? Having Peter Capaldi’s
Doctor battle the Mondasian ‘Tenth Planet’ Cybermen was silly too?

Star Wars isn't meant to look like the future.

TOS does not look futuristic anymore.

TMP onwards still looks futuristic.

 

[Dukhat]

Star Wars isn't meant to look like the future.

Way to entirely miss my point.

TOS does not look futuristic anymore.

TMP onwards still looks futuristic.

Then they should have made SNW look nothing like TOS. They should have used TMP onwards as their base if that were the case.

 

[Tuskin38]

Way to entirely miss my point.

I answered your question, kinda. Vader doesn't look silly to me because it's not the same type of series as Star Trek.

Same with Doctor Who. Plus they way they used the Mondas Cybermen in that story made sense.

Then they should have made SNW look nothing like TOS

It basically doesn't.

 

[Mudd]

What, exactly, is the satisfaction in defending every dumb thing and poor choice that the Kurtzman Trek people make?

 

[Noname Given]

When did they say Data was the first android? They only said he was the first android in Starfleet.

Says you.

Norman would disagree with you. Remember that Android was actually assigned to the Enterprise before he took it over and they went to the planet Mudd.

 

[Tuskin38]

What, exactly, is the satisfaction in defending every dumb thing and poor choice that the Kurtzman Trek people make?

dumb and poor is an opinion, not fact.

 

[DaveyNY]

Norman would disagree with you. Remember that Android was actually assigned to the Enterprise before he took it over and they went to the planet Mudd.

Technically, he was supposed to be a new recruit, but it's kinda obvious he actually snuck onboard with false credentials that Harry Mudd helped get.
So he didn't really attend or graduate from Star Fleet Academy and wasn't actually assigned by Fleet Headquarters.

 

[Dukhat]

I answered your question, kinda. Vader doesn't look silly to me because it's not the same type of series as Star Trek.

You’re defending the use of Vader because Star Wars isn’t the ‘future?’ Putting aside for the moment the fallacy of that statement (since it is a futuristic setting) that defense has nothing to do with what we’re talking about. It can be argued that Lucas’s 1979 vision of a man in a ‘futuristic’ life-support system suit looks ‘silly’ and outdated to our 21st century standards, yet Rogue One didn’t feel the need to ‘visually reboot’ Vader’s look for that 21st century audience. Like @Serveaux said, visual continuity matters, especially to the fandom and production personnel that cares about that kind of thing. Nonsensical statements like ‘it’s window dressing’ completely misses the point and is just a lame attempt at obfuscation.

 

[Vale]

The Mondasian Cybermen were pretty damned silly, yeah.

But they're the best ones

 

[mdtauk]

Trek has always tied itself to our future, as in Earth, this universe, and tied to our reality.

Star Wars protects itself from having to represent the technological progressions of our world by use of one simple elements, that underpins everything.

As our technology has caught up to that used and inspired by Trek - keeping the reality of progression from "today" has been prioritised over depicting it as a Period piece.

Whether you agree with that choice or not, it is deliberate and intentional.

 

[Paul755]

TMP onwards still looks futuristic.

this is absolutely false. Having just watched TMP it looks dated as hell. Maybe not to the extent of TOS but still. TNG is getting there too. VERY 80’s.

 

[Markonian]

Speaking of visually continuity, I'd love to see both DSC-era ships and TOS-era ships in the show. FASA's Anton class is kinda like a TOSsified Malachwoski.

 

[NCC-73515]

It’s not the 1960s anymore. Expecting it to look like that is silly.

What is silly about this one, please?

 

[shipfisher]

Gotta say,
The old girl scrubs up quite nicely there.
Amazing what lighting can do.

 

[mdtauk]

Like you see with videogame remakes, were new detail is added, but the spirit of the original is in tact.

 

[Tuskin38]

What is silly about this one, please?

The neck and thin pylons.

 

[NCC-73515]

The neck and thin pylons.

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