Spoilers The Strange New Worlds Starship Thread™
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This isn't going to be a precise number, but I loaded up a nice 3D model I found online, scaled it to match some human figures at the same angle, and then measured the length of the ship. It came out at 300m.Saw this while watching the 4K trailer for TMP. Using the people as a reference, does the Enterprise seem larger or smaller than the size posted in the chart?
But the humans on the hull are about 33% taller than the ones standing in the rec room at the start of the movie.
Man that’s amazing. I’m sure it’s easier said than done but can you upscale the Connie’s to the reported 450 m?
Curious how they’re look. Amazed how well the sizes gel with the lineage of the other ships. I like many, always felt the TOS and refit should have been upscaled to make everything fit properly.
Have to remember that generation couldn’t fathom anything being bigger than the flattops of the era. Who could blame them they were and still are gigantic floating cities. and as much as I love the original cutaways they always seem to forget one crucial element to justify the scales and that is space between decks for pipes, conduit, etc.
anyway I digress. Very cool
Curious how they’re look. Amazed how well the sizes gel with the lineage of the other ships. I like many, always felt the TOS and refit should have been upscaled to make everything fit properly.
Have to remember that generation couldn’t fathom anything being bigger than the flattops of the era. Who could blame them they were and still are gigantic floating cities. and as much as I love the original cutaways they always seem to forget one crucial element to justify the scales and that is space between decks for pipes, conduit, etc.
anyway I digress. Very cool
I made this last year and never shared it anywhere. I didn't want a longer Excelsior than the Ambassador, so I made them the same length. I also didn't like the idea of the Constitution having a larger saucer than the Excelsior, so I shrank it to 400 meters. That might be why I never shared it anywhere.
In any case, there's definitely room to enlarge the Constitution and Excelsior classes while leaving everything else alone.
Has anyone got ALL the shots of the ships from all the trailers yet and screenshot the best scenes? I've been waiting for that ship pr0n.
This makes the Enterprise significantly wider and taller than the Excelsior. It could work better with a larger Excelsior, at least 550 meters, but it doesn't quite feel right to me like this.
Here's a scruffy mess of an image for you:
That's a 450m SNW Connie with the neck cut out and the saucer moved up overlaid on top of a 400m TOS Connie and a 400m Refit Connie. The secondary hull is basically the same size and the saucer would be too if the rim didn't have such a steep angle. I think it's plausible that the SNW ship could lose 50m in a refit.
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So that's the REAL Enterprise! All of them at the same time!Here's a scruffy mess of an image for you:
That's a 450m SNW Connie with the neck cut out and the saucer moved up overlaid on top of a 400m TOS Connie and a 400m Refit Connie. The secondary hull is basically the same size and the saucer would be too if the rim didn't have such a steep angle. I think it's plausible that the ship could lose 50m in a refit.
You can try, and the ship comes out at around 700m, which also matches the MSD which shows a giant ship with 34 decks.
But dialogue says Kirk disappears on deck 15, which suggests a much smaller ship. Unless you start counting from the top of the neck and assume the saucer has different terminology (maybe the bridge is on 'Level A' or 'A Deck' and the battle bridge is Deck 1).
Basically a larger Excelsior is quite an attractive idea. The limiting factor was always the size of the Spacedock doors in ST3, but if the Enterprise is now correspondingly larger it works a lot better (and makes Spacedock much closer to the size of Starbase 74). I'd go with around 650m for the Excelsior/Enterprise-B.
https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/excelsior-size.htm
The only reason that has any weight is their ownership of the IP. It is not binding on the fandom in any case. If they wanted it to be canon, they wouldn't keep doing things that violate/are inconsistent with the canon.
'Canon' has always been what Paramount/CBS/Viacom told us it was, no matter how internally consistent or not (and it's never been consistent).
'Fanon' is a different matter. You can believe anything you want. It's part of the fun.
So much drama could have been avoided if CBS had been honest with the fans and said up front "We're rebooting."
I would've destroyed CBS with lasers from my eyes if they'd told me that, and it wouldn't have even been deliberate.
Then they wouldn't be honest, because it isn't a reboot.
This is terrific!
You are correct Excelsior needs a size upgrade as well.
very cool
You are correct Excelsior needs a size upgrade as well.
very cool
This makes the Enterprise significantly wider and taller than the Excelsior. It could work better with a larger Excelsior, at least 550 meters, but it doesn't quite feel right to me like this.
Works pretty seamlessly doesn’t it
Here's a scruffy mess of an image for you:
That's a 450m SNW Connie with the neck cut out and the saucer moved up overlaid on top of a 400m TOS Connie and a 400m Refit Connie. The secondary hull is basically the same size and the saucer would be too if the rim didn't have such a steep angle. I think it's plausible that the SNW ship could lose 50m in a refit.
It's fine the way it is. It's still bigger, if you measure it based off the MSD and windows.
LOL. Like CBS cares about being ‘honest.’ They’re selling a product. They’ll tell you whatever you want to hear as long as you buy what they’re selling.
That's how canon works.
Maybe if you just ignore all the connections to canon then that prove it isn't a reboot.
So, treat it as its own separate thing, completely unconnected to what came before? That’s a reboot.
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