Spoilers The Flash - Season 2

[Servo]

I'm down with Mirror Master, but I want to see The Top and Abra Kadabra too.

I would prefer not to have another speedster next season. We've had two seasons of Barry up against an evil speedster, and they need to bring something else to the table now so it doesn't get stale. The Rogues would be a good option. Although there's still a question of who would be involved in that team, given the events of Legends of Tomorrow.

 

[kirk55555]

I'm down with Mirror Master, but I want to see The Top and Abra Kadabra too.

I would prefer not to have another speedster next season. We've had two seasons of Barry up against an evil speedster, and they need to bring something else to the table now so it doesn't get stale. The Rogues would be a good option. Although there's still a question of who would be involved in that team, given the events of Legends of Tomorrow.

Well, for the Rogues, they could go with a group like:

Trickster I/II
Golden Glider
Weather Wizard
Mirror Master
The Top
Double Down
Tar Pit

That would involve introducing several new (to the show) villains, but they could do that pretty easily. I suppose you couldn't have both Tricksters all the time if it was a full or partial season story with the rogues, but Hamil seems like he'd like to come back, so they could use him with the group at least once in the season, then the second Trickster could be a regular member. Maybe the team forms from Golden Glider wanting to honor and/or get revenge for her brother disappearing, or just because things like Cold disappearing and Heatwave leaving make some other villains want to team up to support/protect themselves.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Are Lisa and Cisco going to pursue their romance?

Shouldn't the law be angry that he built a gun?

 

[Phoenix219]

Aquaman and Wonder Woman.

Least civil divorce ever.

Glug, glug, glug London.

If time remnants create parallel universes, Zoom can't use them to destroy the multiverse. Actually merely the notion that the multiverse, save Earth can be destroyed, and not instantly replaced by splintering decisions of probability from the last Earth.

Proof the time travel does not create new Earths?

Most shows that deal with both alternate universes and time travel treat them as completely separate conceits. An alternate universe is a physically disparate place, usually vibrating at a different frequency. Time travel in one universe doesn't affect the others, because the timeline of the original physical universe is just rewritten with new events happening in the same framework. The multiverse would be like a cabinet full of VHS tapes, each one distinct and containing its own timeline of events which can be rewound, fastforwarded and rewritten. Thats my understanding, anyways, of shows like Flash, and Fringe.

 

[Guy Gardener]

It could really go either way.

 

[Christopher]

Most shows that deal with both alternate universes and time travel treat them as completely separate conceits. An alternate universe is a physically disparate place, usually vibrating at a different frequency. Time travel in one universe doesn't affect the others, because the timeline of the original physical universe is just rewritten with new events happening in the same framework. The multiverse would be like a cabinet full of VHS tapes, each one distinct and containing its own timeline of events which can be rewound, fastforwarded and rewritten.

Which really shouldn't be the case. If parallel versions of Earth and humanity did exist, they would actually be divergent timelines of our universe. And in Supergirl: "Worlds Finest," Barry did explain the parallel Earths as being distinguished by different historical events, such as Hitler winning WWII.

Still, you could postulate a distinction between divergent timelines that arise spontaneously through quantum effects and ones that are caused by time travel. That's the model I used in my Star Trek: Department of Temporal Investigations novels -- timelines created by time travel essentially do coexist in parallel with the original timelines, but only up until the moment when the time traveler left for the past, at which point the two timelines converge into one, with the newer history replacing the older one. So only the rewritten timeline survives in the long term, whereas if two timelines split spontaneously, they can both coexist indefinitely.

Thats my understanding, anyways, of shows like Flash, and Fringe.

Well, not Fringe, exactly, because in that one, both parallel worlds' timelines were simultaneously changed by the same history-altering event (although that was because the inciting incident that was altered involved the initial interaction between the universes' inhabitants, and thus all their subsequent interactions played out differently as a result).

 

[Phoenix219]

Which really shouldn't be the case. If parallel versions of Earth and humanity did exist, they would actually be divergent timelines of our universe. And in Supergirl: "Worlds Finest," Barry did explain the parallel Earths as being distinguished by different historical events, such as Hitler winning WWII.

Still, you could postulate a distinction between divergent timelines that arise spontaneously through quantum effects and ones that are caused by time travel. That's the model I used in my Star Trek: Department of Temporal Investigations novels -- timelines created by time travel essentially do coexist in parallel with the original timelines, but only up until the moment when the time traveler left for the past, at which point the two timelines converge into one, with the newer history replacing the older one. So only the rewritten timeline survives in the long term, whereas if two timelines split spontaneously, they can both coexist indefinitely.




Well, not Fringe, exactly, because in that one, both parallel worlds' timelines were simultaneously changed by the same history-altering event (although that was because the inciting incident that was altered involved the initial interaction between the universes' inhabitants, and thus all their subsequent interactions played out differently as a result).

I was referring to the fact that the Observer Invasion changed the entire timeline of the "Blue" Universe while the "Red" Universe, cut off from any breaches and inaccessible, continued on unaffected. Good points, though.

 

[dahj]

Shouldn't the law be angry that he built a gun?

It doesn't shoot bullets.
It's kinda like a water pistol, if you think about it.