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The Disappointment of Padme

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Padme's characterization is one of the most confusing aspects of the whole Star Wars universe for me. First you have the originals, where she is little more than an afterthought. As Luke struggles with his thoughts/emotions regarding his father, he only at the very end wonders who the heck his mom was. At the very least you would think he'd be asking himself, "what kind of person procreates with such evil?"

But okay, I get it, that wasn't the point in those movies and since she was dead and gone it's not like they needed to develop her character in great detail. The focus was much more a father-son relationship.

In the prequels, there was so much potential for her character. We would finally see this other half of the couple that created our heroes. She was young and alive, and surely she must have been an interesting and complicated person to hook up with Anakin Skywalker, great jedi in training and future evildoer. In fact, I would argue the prequels should have focused on her story just as much as on Anakin's fall to the dark side. She is more representative of the light side that exists in Luke and Leia and therefore is an important factor in their origin story. That juxtaposition of light and dark, Padme and Anakin turning against each other, would have been fascinating. Instead the light-dark dichotomy seemed to be represented by Obi-Wan and Anakin. I love me some Obi-Wan, but I think putting Padme in that position would have been more interesting.

But no, apparently she's just some low-level politician who thinks genocidal Ani is cute. It's really a kind of baffling and pathetic backstory for what should have been one of major players in Luke and Leia's existence.

So does George Lucas just suck at writing female characters? I enjoyed Leia, and honestly I would have expected Padme to be a bit more like her. Does Lucas have some sort of issue with mothers? He has mentioned before that he sees the Star Wars movies as being very much about familial ties and generations, yet it seems he only focuses on fathers and sons, brushing aside one whole side of the family.

Unfortunately TFA, although it has better female characters, does the same thing. A strained father and son relationship gone bad. However I am much more interested in seeing the relationship between Leia and Ben play out than I was in how Ben hated his daddy. Maybe the next movie will focus on this, or maybe we'll even get an interesting father-daughter or, god forbid, a mother-daughter relationship dynamic going.

I get it, lots of people have daddy issues and can relate, but where is the presence of the mother? It seems like in Star Wars they just pop out some kids and then kindly step aside so we can focus on the REAL characters, the fathers and sons. Padme is such a missed opportunity!
 
As with just about all the concepts and characters introduced in the prequel trilogy, Padme gets much, much better treatment in the Clone Wars series than in the movies.

Kor
 
To be fair to Anakin and Padme, most of the time Anakin is a hero. He's saved her life several times. He is a hero of the Republic up until his fall to the Dark Side.
 
Padme is just so damn boring.

And doesn't Leia say she can remember her mother? Those twins should have been born earlier and got to spend some time with Padme. Maybe Padme should have run off with Bail Organa, given birth, raised the kids for a couple months, and THEN been killed by Anakin once he tracked her down.
 
"Just a little bit. She died when I was very young. ... She was very beautiful. Kind, but sad."

Leia must have quite a memory!

Maybe the intention was the Leia had ended up with their mother while Luke had been taken to Tatooine. But the prequel trilogy ruined that idea.

Kor
 
Leia seems to feel through the Force better than anything else. Maybe she could perceive her mother through the Force from inside the womb. They did that in the EU with Leia's twins long before the Prequels ever happened.
 
While her later attraction to Anakin is indeed baffling, it's easy to see what he saw in her. In The Phantom Menace, she was brave and resourceful. Palpatine thought that she would be a pushover, but she refused to sign the treaty and chose to fight for her people when opportunity arose. ("We are brave, Your Highness"). On Tatooine, she went out and saw what the Jedi were doing in her name first hand, rather than actually send a hand-maiden. She stood up to a Jedi Master ("The Queen would not approve" "The Queen never needs to know." "Well, I don't approve"). Later, after addressing the senate, she could have remained on Coruscant where it was safe, but instead, she returned home, negotiated a peace and an alliance with a foreign state, before leading an assault to take back her own palace ("Now, Viceroy, we shall discuss a new treaty"). All at age 14. I had many issues with The Phantom Menace, many disappointments, but Padme was not one of them. It is her later characterization that is lacking.
 
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I don't think any of the characters in the prequels were well developed or in any way memorable. Nor were they terribly consistent, as we have Padme not compromising in following the law as a senator, and a few days later forgiving Anakin for murder. Obi Wan is badgering Anakin for being reckless one scene, and jumping out a window the next. The characters adopted traits to suit the plot instead of having a story that fit their traits.
 
I'm a total Prequel Apologist, but yeah Padme's portrayal was not the greatest thing. Even the Clone Wars series couldn't get blood from a stone. She was pretty strong in TPM (if stiff), but yeah. Why would she make googly eyes for a mass murderer in AOTC? And then in ROTS she basically gets no character work at all is just there to die. It's a shame.
 
Most of the women of Star Wars are disappointing; Padme, Leia, and now Phasma. The only female worth her salt is Rey, and she's been criticized for being a Mary Sue due to Abrams' 'speed of plot" style of story telling.
 
I would really like it if Phasma turned out to be a lot more important. Maybe she could turn out to be Kylo Ren's evil girlfriend!
 
As for Padme not thinking anything of Anakin killing the sand people in retaliation for his mother's kidnapping and death....

The setting of Star Wars is much like medieval times on Earth (or earlier mythical periods). Life is cheap in such a context. Aristocratic warriors such as knights and samurai were often able to kill common or "lesser" folk at their discretion, with impunity. And the Jedi are the elite warrior caste of the Star Wars galaxy. :shrug:

Kor
 
I don't think any of the characters in the prequels were well developed or in any way memorable. Nor were they terribly consistent, as we have Padme not compromising in following the law as a senator, and a few days later forgiving Anakin for murder. Obi Wan is badgering Anakin for being reckless one scene, and jumping out a window the next. The characters adopted traits to suit the plot instead of having a story that fit their traits.

That stuck out to me too, especially in a recent rewatching. Characters often seemed to go against their own personality traits in ways that served the plot but didn't really make a whole lot of sense. It's too bad really.

I also forgot to mention that Padme does have several deleted scenes in the prequels, that give her a bit more personality (though still not much). I'm disappointed that some of those scenes were cut, especially in ROTS. There wasn't much of her in that movie once those were cut.
 
As for Padme not thinking anything of Anakin killing the sand people in retaliation for his mother's kidnapping and death....

The setting of Star Wars is much like medieval times on Earth (or earlier mythical periods). Life is cheap in such a context. Aristocratic warriors such as knights and samurai were often able to kill common or "lesser" folk at their discretion, with impunity. And the Jedi are the elite warrior caste of the Star Wars galaxy. :shrug:

Kor
That doesn't exactly jive with the notion that hatred and anger are the path to the Dark Side, and that the Jedi can only act in defense. Nor does it make sense considering Padme cared a great deal when Anakin went on his killing spree in the next film.

I'm also pretty sure knights in the middle ages weren't allowed to kill anybody indiscriminately.
 
I can almost buy Padme falling for a charming bad boy type who could bring some danger and excitement into her boring life... except that what really comes through most in all their scenes together is just how incredibly childish and immature he is next to her. And Lucas makes very little effort to bridge that gap or provide any reason why someone like Padme would be remotely attracted to that (let alone want to marry him or have kids with him).
 
I scratch my head when I see people like that in real life. It's an unfathomable mystery. And this is the same thing.

Kor
 
I scratch my head when I see people like that in real life. It's an unfathomable mystery. And this is the same thing.

Kor

Yeah girls fall for guys who are immature and bad for them all the time, but usually that's because they've got really bad judgment or low standards or something. But we never saw any hint of that with Padme, and she always seemed way too smart and sensible for that kind of thing.

This was almost like Kate Middleton falling for some creepy emo high school student.
 
Anakn was the only guy who saw her as a woman, not as a queen or senator. she also thought she was in charge of things, kind of like her daughter. Nobody seems to wonder why Leia fell for Han and he turned out not to be a very relable husband leaving her after Ben turned to the dark side.
 
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