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Post-50th Anniversary Viewing



All in the Family
"Mike's Friend"
Originally aired December 14, 1974
Prime Video said:
One of Mike's graduate school friends, Stuart, comes over one evening for a visit and Gloria begins to feel like an intellectual outcast. This leads her to believe that perhaps as Mike becomes more educated in school, he may start looking for a smarter woman.
IMDb and Prime Video said:
Carroll O'Connor does not appear in this episode, [which] was taped during O'Connor's hold out early in the season.
A-ha--Substitute Archie Syndrome!

As Gloria's preparing dinner for the visit of Mike's philosophy student friend Stuart Henderson, Edith tells her about a movie she watched in which a man sacrificed his life for his wife. When Mike comes home from school, Gloria asks Mike if she'd do the same for him.

Mike: Right after I finish this sandwich.​

This goes around a bit as Gloria brings up various hypothetical scenarios, with Mike giving unsatisfactory answers. When Stu arrives (Greg Mullavey), Mike immediately gets into high-brow conversation with him about philosophy and other subjects, while repeatedly shooing Gloria out of the room when she attempts to contribute. Stu, clearly uncomfortable about the situation himself, offers to switch from chess to charades so Gloria can join in; though she ultimately uses this as an opportunity to tell Mike to shove it.

Upstairs, Gloria frets to Edith that she's paying Mike's way through college so he can dump her for somebody more intellectually stimulating. Edith tells a story of how she used her "people smarts" to help Archie buy the house, and encourages Gloria to talk to Mike. Meanwhile, Mike learns that he's not in Stu's league when it comes to chess, and Stu tells him that he's coming on too strong with the intellectual angle, sharing that he'd rather have done something fun that included Gloria.

After Stu leaves, Gloria comes down and starts to talk, but a defensive Mike thinks she's accusing him of being intellectually inferior. When she clarifies what she's talking about, he admits that she's probably smarter than him despite not being as educated. After she expresses the root of insecurity, Mike offers to help her go to school after he's graduated and started his career, and they make up.



Needs more whips!
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Reports of a shadowy figure wearing a cloak and a top hat skating around remain unconfirmed.
Not sure who you're alluding to here.

There was a brief sequel series some years later, but I don't believe our boys made any guest appearances.
Actually, I recently learned that they did each make two. Apparently both appeared in the same episode as store owners (don't know if they were together); and each appeared in a separate episode as his old character--Malloy a captain and Reed a lieutenant.

Sadly, she died very young before the 70s were over.
Didn't know that.

Super-Fonz! I wonder how hard it was for Henry Winkler to play Hamlet as the Fonz rather than Henry Winkler. :rommie:
He was definitely the Fonz here.

Might have worked then. Personally, I would not have trusted it. :rommie:
They made sure the masks worked before going in further.

Interesting for the face of being topical, yet not political.
Doesn't seem especially topical for me. Just a scam.
 
Edith tells her about a movie she watched in which a man sacrificed his life for his wife. When Mike comes home from school, Gloria asks Mike if she'd do the same for him.
It's a trap!

When Stu arrives (Greg Mullavey), Mike immediately gets into high-brow conversation with him about philosophy and other subjects, while repeatedly shooing Gloria out of the room when she attempts to contribute.
I remember this one. I don't think I even noticed that Archie was MIA.

she ultimately uses this as an opportunity to tell Mike to shove it.
I definitely remember that part. :rommie:

Stu tells him that he's coming on too strong with the intellectual angle, sharing that he'd rather have done something fun that included Gloria.
I don't think 70s television was ready for that. :rommie:

After Stu leaves, Gloria comes down and starts to talk, but a defensive Mike thinks she's accusing him of being intellectually inferior.
One of the strengths of this show was that it didn't really spare anybody-- everybody had their flaws and failings.

After she expresses the root of insecurity, Mike offers to help her go to school after he's graduated and started his career, and they make up.
Did they ever say exactly what career he was working toward? I don't remember. :rommie:

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That's more like it! :rommie:

Not sure who you're alluding to here.
Just some mysterious, fog-enshrouded Victorian figure, like Jack the Ripper or whatever. Bit of a stretch, I guess. :rommie:

Actually, I recently learned that they did each make two. Apparently both appeared in the same episode as store owners (don't know if they were together); and each appeared in a separate episode as his old character--Malloy a captain and Reed a lieutenant.
Well, that's kind of weird that they made separate appearances both in character and out, but it's nice that they got to play Malloy and Reed again later in their careers. I like that sort of thing.

They made sure the masks worked before going in further.
"Okay, you go first and see if you die."

Doesn't seem especially topical for me. Just a scam.
Well, it's a topic. :rommie: I mean, it was something no doubt derived from the news, without being political, as opposed to a purely personal issue like this latest episode (and the missing-Archie episodes).
 
It's a trap!
Okay, Mike...

I remember this one. I don't think I even noticed that Archie was MIA.
And if they accounted for his absence, I didn't catch it.

I don't think 70s television was ready for that. :rommie:
Shame, shame, shame...

Did they ever say exactly what career he was working toward? I don't remember. :rommie:
I'm not sure if they've said it yet, but as I recall, he became a teacher.

That's more like it! :rommie:
I hope we all learned something today, Squiggy.

Well, that's kind of weird that they made separate appearances both in character and out, but it's nice that they got to play Malloy and Reed again later in their careers. I like that sort of thing.
I know nothing of the show. May have seen it coming on in the day.
 
Shame, shame, shame...
I'm a baaaad boy.

I'm not sure if they've said it yet, but as I recall, he became a teacher.
Okay, that rings a bell.

I hope we all learned something today, Squiggy.
DEVO sure did.

I know nothing of the show. May have seen it coming on in the day.
I never saw it, but I have a vague recollection of both it and Dragnet being revived briefly. They may have been syndicated as a package, but I'm not sure.
 
I'm a baaaad boy.
Abbott and Costello Meet...

50th Anniversary Cinematic Special

Young Frankenstein
Directed by Mel Brooks
Starring Gene Wilder, Peter Boyle, Marty Feldman, Cloris Leachman, Teri Garr, Kenneth Mars, and Madeline Kahn
Premiered December 15, 1974
1975 Academy Award nominations for Best Writing, Screenplay Adapted from Other Material (Gene Wilder, Mel Brooks); Best Sound
Wiki said:
Young Frankenstein is a 1974 American comedy horror film directed by Mel Brooks. The screenplay was co-written by Brooks and Gene Wilder. Wilder also starred in the lead role as the title character, a descendant of the infamous Victor Frankenstein. Peter Boyle portrayed the monster.

The film is a parody of the classic horror film genre, in particular the various film adaptations of Mary Shelley's 1818 novel Frankenstein; or, The Modern Prometheus produced by Universal Pictures in the 1930s. Much of the lab equipment used as props was created by Kenneth Strickfaden for the 1931 film Frankenstein. To help evoke the atmosphere of the earlier films, Brooks shot the picture entirely in black and white, a rarity in the 1970s, and employed 1930s-style opening credits and scene transitions such as iris outs, wipes, and fades to black. The film also features a period score by Brooks' longtime composer John Morris.
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This is, I'm pretty sure, the first time I've watched this all the way through, though I've seen parts of it on TV over the years.

Wiki said:
Early in the 20th century, Frederick Frankenstein, a lecturing physician at an American medical school, is actively distancing himself from his grandfather Victor Frankenstein, the infamous mad scientist, pronouncing his surname as "Fronkensteen".
I'm not sure that's the intended timeframe. It isn't explicitly established, but the students in Frederick's class look pretty contemporary. There's a bit of language-muting on Movies!, including when Frederick's trying to provoke a reaction from his classroom demonstration subject, Mr. Hilltop (Liam Dunn).

When Frederick inherits the family castle in Transylvania, he travels to Europe to inspect the property.
We first meet Frederick's comically proper and prudish fiancée, Elizabeth (Kahn) as she's seeing him off at the train station. They touch elbows in lieu of kissing to avoid ruining her makeup.

At the Transylvania train station, Frederick is met by a hunchbacked, bug-eyed servant named Igor [Feldman], whose own grandfather worked for Victor and who states his name is pronounced "Eye-gore".
Marty Feldman is definitely a personality I'm familiar with, but even browsing his credits, I'm not sure from exactly where other than this film. Possibly just general exposure from talk and variety shows.

Reportedly, the upcoming Aerosmith hit was inspired specifically by the iteration of the "walk this way" gag that Igor initiates here.
A young woman named Inga [Garr] also greets him.
The sexual innuendo, much of which centers around Inga, is a signature comedic element of the film, right down to the ending centering on it. This was probably the biggest thing Garr had done at this point.
Arriving at the estate, Frederick meets Frau Blücher [Leachman], the dour, intimidating housekeeper.
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Not only would I not have recognized Leachman in this, but I still don't.

After discovering the secret entrance to Victor's laboratory and reading his private journals, Frederick resumes his grandfather's experiments in reanimating the dead.

Frederick and Igor steal a recently executed criminal's corpse. He sends Igor to steal the brain of a deceased "scientist and saint" named Hans Delbrück.
The previously posted Brain Depositary door gag got the biggest laugh from me on first viewing.
Igor accidentally destroys Delbrück's brain and takes one labeled "Abnormal" instead. Frederick unknowingly transplants it into the corpse and brings the Monster to life.
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Also a bit of language-muting here.

Frightened by Igor lighting a match, the Monster attacks Frederick and nearly strangles him before being sedated.
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Unaware the Monster exists, the townspeople gather to discuss their unease at Frederick continuing his grandfather's work. Inspector Kemp [Mars], a one-eyed police inspector with a prosthetic arm and a heavy German accent, visits the doctor's and demands assurance that Frederick would not create another monster.
The physical comedy with the arm is pretty good, and no doubt inspired by Mars's role in The Producers. They dial the gag to 11 with the battering ram bit.

Returning to the lab, Frederick discovers Blücher
Whinny!
releasing the creature. She reveals the Monster's love of violin music, her own romantic relationship with Frederick's grandfather,
"He...vas...my...BOYFRIEND!"
and her planning out the events that inspired Frederick to create a monster as Victor did. The Monster becomes enraged by electrical sparks...and escapes the castle. While roaming the countryside, the Monster interacts with a young girl [Anne Beesley] and a blind, hermetic monk [Gene Hackman].
Hackman was reportedly uncredited in the original release; and the soup gag was filmed afterward with Brooks standing in as the character's hand. While Brooks also does bits of voice work, including the cat hit by the dart, Wilder stipulated that he not appear on camera because he felt it would take people out of the film.

Frederick recaptures the Monster and locks himself in a room with him.
"Let me out. Let me out of here. Get me the hell out of here."
He calms the Monster's homicidal tendencies with flattery and a promise to guide him to success, embracing his heritage as a Frankenstein.

At a theater filled with prominent guests, Frederick shows "The Creature" following simple commands, then performing a musical number with him.
"'UHHIN' ONNA 'IIIIITZ."
A stage light explodes and frightens the Monster, who becomes enraged at the booing crowd, and charges at them when they throw rotten vegetables. He is captured and chained by police. Back in the laboratory, Inga attempts to comfort Frederick; they have sex on the suspended reanimation table.

The Monster escapes from prison the same night Elizabeth, Frederick's socialite fiancée, arrives unexpectedly.
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The Monster takes her captive, but she falls in love with him as he makes love to her.
And right after she refused to make things conjugal with her fiancé. After the monster captures her, the iconic Bride streaks appear in her hair.
While the townspeople hunt the Monster, Frederick plays the violin to lure his creation back to the castle and recaptures him. Just as the Kemp-led mob storms the laboratory, Frederick transfers some of his stabilizing intellect to the Monster, who reasons with and placates the mob. Kemp gives the Monster a warm reception.
Kemp extends his hand, and the Monster literally takes it.

Sometime later, Frederick and Inga are wed and Elizabeth marries the now-sophisticated Monster. While in bed with Frederick, Inga asks what he got in return during the transfer procedure. Frederick growls wordlessly like the monster and embraces Inga while Igor plays the [horn] on the roof.

Wiki said:
A critical and commercial success, Young Frankenstein ranks number 28 on Total Film magazine's readers' "List of the 50 Greatest Comedy Films of All Time," No. 56 on Bravo's list of the "100 Funniest Movies," and No. 13 on the American Film Institute's list of the 100 funniest American movies. In 2003, it was deemed "culturally, historically or aesthetically significant" by the United States National Film Preservation Board, and selected for preservation in the Library of Congress National Film Registry. It was later adapted by Brooks and Thomas Meehan as a stage musical.

In 2014, the year of its 40th anniversary, Brooks considered it by far his finest (although not his funniest) film as a writer-director.

Overall, not bad. There are definitely some all-time classic gags to be found in here. And with age and immersive retro context, I better appreciate what an artful homage this was to the Universal horror flicks.



DEVO sure did.
Cap it good!

I never saw it, but I have a vague recollection of both it and Dragnet being revived briefly. They may have been syndicated as a package, but I'm not sure.
I don't recall a latter-day Dragnet TV revival at all; just the 1987 Aykroyd/Hanks comedy film.
 
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Abbott and Costello Meet...


Young Frankenstein
Now there's an idea.

This is, I'm pretty sure, the first time I've watched this all the way through, though I've seen parts of it on TV over the years.
I saw it originally at the dollar theater in Columbian Square, and then on TV, and a few times since then on tape or DVD.

I'm not sure that's the intended timeframe. It isn't explicitly established, but the students in Frederick's class look pretty contemporary.
They were probably trying to have it both ways, like the original movie did-- the novel dates back to the early 1800s, but the Universal adaptation has some anachronisms. It's pretty impossible to reconcile Frederick's status as Frankenstein's grandson either way, but it doesn't really matter since the thing is set in some kind of bubble universe-- like the 1950s of Happy Days. :rommie:

They touch elbows in lieu of kissing to avoid ruining her makeup.
If it's the early 20th century, it could be the pandemic. :rommie:

Marty Feldman is definitely a personality I'm familiar with, but even browsing his credits, I'm not sure from exactly where other than this film. Possibly just general exposure from talk and variety shows.
I think he's a nightmare from the collective subconscious.

The sexual innuendo, much of which centers around Inga, is a signature comedic element of the film, right down to the ending centering on it. This was probably the biggest thing Garr had done at this point.
The knockers joke is still one of my favorite lines. :rommie:

Not only would I not have recognized Leachman in this, but I still don't.
:rommie: I don't remember if I recognized her or not. I probably didn't.

:rommie:

"He...vas...my...BOYFRIEND!"
Exactly how old is Frau You-Know-Who? Maybe she's one of the Brides of Dracula. :rommie:

"'UHHIN' ONNA 'IIIIITZ."
Like Blazing Saddles, it goes kinda surreal at the end, although nowhere near the same degree.

And right after she refused to make things conjugal with her fiancé.
They just weren't right for each other. And I'm not even going to attempt to come up with science to explain the "transfer procedure." :rommie:

Overall, not bad. There are definitely some all-time classic gags to be found in here. And with age and immersive retro context, I better appreciate what an artful homage this was to the Universal horror flicks.
Definitely one of my all-time favorite comedies. All the articles written at the time always mentioned that it used the original Universal sets, which I thought was great.

Cap it good!
:rommie:

I don't recall a latter-day Dragnet TV revival at all; just the 1987 Aykroyd/Hanks comedy film.
Such a terrible parody. Okay, I'm going to Wiki it: And I was actually right for a change. They were the Jack of all Trades and Cleopatra 2525 of their day. :rommie:
 


50th Anniversary Viewing



Adam-12
"Something Worth Dying For: Part 2"
Originally aired May 20, 1975
Series finale
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Malloy recovers from his gunshot wound and returns to patrol with Reed, where they investigate a suspicious burglary call at a school for women, and confront a pair of armed intruders in a warehouse full of mannequins. Meanwhile, Reed contemplates taking the investigator's exam as he prepares to give a speech in acceptance of the medal of valor for saving Malloy's life.

This week, Kristin Nelson and Gary Crosby get in the opening credits, along with a "Special Appearance by" credit for Chief of Police Edward M. Davis. In the post-opening credits, the Medal of Valor presentation speech gets a separate writing credit from the rest of the story.

Malloy and Reed are back on duty together in the squad car.

Pete: [Judy] wouldn't mind seeing me behind a desk permanently.​
Jim: Why not?​
Pete: The desk she has in mind is a hardware store in Fresno.​

Jim: I've been getting the same static from Jean. You getting that purple heart didn't help any.​
Pete: It didn't do me a whole lotta good, either.​

While Hardwick isn't in this episode, his cynical influence lingers as Reed expresses his doubt about how much good they're doing when the citizens they're sworn to serve and protect are enabling street crime by, e.g., purchasing stolen property. The officers respond to a 211 at a school that teaches job skills to young women. As director Helen Newton (Virginia Field) describes the robber, she establishes that the school's on too tight a budget to afford losing $300, all while acting suspiciously uptight and unfriendly. Mac gives the guys a hard time when they return to the station for some investigation, their suspicions having been stoked by signs of a typewriter burglary that Newton didn't report. It comes up that Reed's thinking about taking the investigator's exam.

Back on patrol, the unit is assigned to a 459 at a mannequin warehouse. A security guard nursing a head injury (Don Brodie) describes the suspects as a young couple. Searching inside, the male, Angie Wilkins (Christopher Stafford Nelson), fires warning shots from behind concealment. Reed keeps him occupied while Malloy gets into a good position on a catwalk, following which the suspects are arrested. In the aftermath, the owner, Harold Thompson (Chuck Bowman), is informed that the young woman is his daughter, Jo Anne (Kimberly Beck); and it comes out that they were stealing from him for a wedding that he wouldn't support.

At the station, Mac turns up a lead about a load of electric typewriters that were stolen out of town; and the subject of the award presentation comes up, a topic that continues in the squad car.

Pete: Judy's coming....She's curious to see what you get because I got shot.​

Jim: Well, [Jean] does have a point. A medal of valor's not gonna keep her warm on a cold night.​

The officers return to the school, where Newton's assistant, Kate Gordon (Janear Hines), is obviously nervous while they have a look at the typewriters. When Newton returns, the officers confront her about the machines matching ones that were reported stolen elsewhere. Gordon, who wasn't in on this, confirms that Newton lied about the other units having been stolen in the burglary. Underscoring Reed's earlier argument perhaps a bit too patly, Newton defends her choice to cut some corners in running the fund-challenged school.

At home, Jean gives Jim the cold shoulder while little Jimmy isn't home. (I don't think we've seen him on camera since his birth the same week as mine.)

Jean (sniffling): One of these days, there's gonna be a knock at the door. And it'll be Pete, or Mac, or some other cop standing there with his hat in his hand, and he's gonna tell me that you're not coming home anymore....It was Pete this time! Aw, Jim, I can't think of anything that's worth you dying for.​

After she expresses her belief that the public doesn't care about what he does, the escalated argument ends without resolution.

Jim: Honey, I want you to come to the presentation tomorrow!​
Jean: What for, to meet the widows?​

I can appreciate here that they recast Jean after her years of absence. I don't think Jean I had the acting chops to pull off this sort of scene.

Cut to the next day at the Hollywood Palladium as it hosts the Los Angeles Area Chamber of Commerce Medal of Valor Awards Luncheon. LAPD officers attend in uniform, including Pete, who's accompanied by Judy. She expresses her concerns less tearfully.

Judy: You're gonna get buried in that uniform.​
Pete: Maybe, but I think it fits me better than a business suit....Somebody has to protect you and David and Jean and little Jimmy, and it just so happens that somebody is me. But I wouldn't do it if I didn't like it, and I wasn't good at it.​

They take their seats at a table along with Mac, Ed Wells, Jerry Woods, and their plus ones--I'm not sure offhand if Jerry is supposed to be married, but I think this is the only time that we see Mrs. Mac or Mrs. Wells, though they're just extras. Jean's absence is noticed.

Emcee Art Balinger opens with a story about the founding of the L.A. police department that segues into appreciation for the service of the line officer...during which the camera at one point focuses on Jean's empty chair. (As Balinger is one of Mark VII's frequent flyers, it's unclear if the emcee is supposed to be a previously established recurring character such as Captain Hugh Brown from Dragnet or Captain Grant, who appeared a few times in Seasons 4 and 5 of A12.)

Following a cut that skips past five other officers also being awarded, the emcee gives an account of Reed's act of heroism, during which Jean arrives.
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Emcee: Faced with the alternative of seeking cover or attempting to rescue the fallen officer, Officer Reed unhesitatingly chose the latter course. He placed his life on the line to save an unconscious fellow officer who was in peril of an immediate and violent death. Officer Reed's skill, courage, and determination reflect the highest tradition of the Los Angeles Police Department and are hereby acknowledged with gratitude and with pride.​

Jean sheds tears again as she sees her husband presented with the award by, I presume, real-life Los Angeles Chief of Police Davis. The series ends with a standing ovation for the six officers, during which Pete looks especially appreciative, and Jim silently acknowledges that his wife showed up after all.
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And that formally wraps up our in-sync 50th Anniversary Viewing season. The departure of Adam-12 leaves Hawaii Five-O as the last series standing in our lineup that started in the '60s...but fear not, it won't be going anywhere particularly soon.



They were probably trying to have it both ways, like the original movie did-- the novel dates back to the early 1800s, but the Universal adaptation has some anachronisms.
I was never under the impression that the movie was supposed to take place in the same period as the novel. The electrical equipment alone seems substantially later, if not the film's present.

t's pretty impossible to reconcile Frederick's status as Frankenstein's grandson either way, but it doesn't really matter since the thing is set in some kind of bubble universe-- like the 1950s of Happy Days. :rommie:
There was one particular student who stood out at me as looking very 1970s--an Asian guy with a mullet and mustache.

I think he's a nightmare from the collective subconscious.
I was surprised that the character turned out to be so benign. You expect your Igors to be a little more treacherous.

Such a terrible parody.
I enjoyed it at the time; and the '60s show being promoted in association with the film was my first direct exposure to it.
 
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