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The Ashes 2009

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The Australians recovered from 2-24 to reach 8-337 at stumps against an "England Lions" team - I'll leave it up to posters from the host side to tell us how much roar this lions outfit has, but I have seen Onions and (obviously) Harmison, plus I believe their leg-spinner is close to test selection, so the attack must have been reasonable.

Hussey's 143* is great news, we simply can't get big enough scores to win unless he's back in form.
 
Very much looking forward to the Ashes (and Ashes Cricket 2009 on the XBox!), but I can't get worked up about these pre-tournament games.
 
I've not been keeping up with the Cricket recently - there's precious little on terrestrial TV these days - so I have no idea how both sides are faring these days. Mind you, I could use the - what's it called - internets! to find out, couldn't I? I blame this place for stealing my time so effectively. Yeah.

So - how are both teams faring these days? Who's expected to win the series?
 
I've not been keeping up with the Cricket recently - there's precious little on terrestrial TV these days - so I have no idea how both sides are faring these days. Mind you, I could use the - what's it called - internets! to find out, couldn't I? I blame this place for stealing my time so effectively. Yeah.

So - how are both teams faring these days? Who's expected to win the series?
I don't follow test cricket much regularly (except for big series such as The Ashes). Yet from what I gather, Australia is far from the legendary team they were in the last two test series against England. England are not exactly as cohesive a team as I'd like to see them, but there are individual flashes of brilliance here and there that could swing the series one way or another.

Bottom line: I think this year it could be very interesting.
 
Bottom line: I think this year it could be very interesting.

There have been some positive signs for Australia - Hussey scoring runs (he's lucky to be in the squad, his form has been awful for nearly a year), and Lee taking 5 wickets overnight, and apparently moving it around in the air, which is something nobody in our attack could manage to do last time.

I'm sure this will now mean Lee will play and open the bowling with Johnson. The media sure is cheerleading for him. Siddle is a certainty for first change and it's a toss up between S.Clark and Hauritz for the final bowling spot (Clark would be my preference).

A lot depends on Lee IMO. He's never performed before in England, but we desperately need him to take new ball wickets. Dozens of no-balls and leaking 6 runs an over can't be sustained these days in the Aussie attack.

Australia have two major concerns - a suspect middle order (Clarke, Hussey, North and Haddin all need runs) and no attacking spinner. Hauritz is much improved, but at the end of the day is just a dart thrower, and won't trouble the England top order.

It's an unbelievable scenario, but England might be able to use its better spin arsenal to trouble Australia - things sure have changed in that area over the past four years!

England fans may not be too familiar with Mitchell Johnson - he is a tall left armer who can swing it both ways on his day. He's carried the Aussie attack for 12 months and nearly been bowled into the ground by Ponting, but he is a huge talent. His batting is quite amazing too - he's the most likely allrounder Australia has produced since Gilchrist, and the great Gilly would be proud of his hitting - if he gets onto one, they go out of the park.

Another newcomer is Phil Hughes who plundered the South African attack on his first tour and led the way to an unlikely series win over there. It's great to watch Hughes bat - his technique makes him look like a park cricketer, but he is fearless and really takes the bowlers on. The South Africans were frustrated to the point of madness by him and for a 20 year old he didn't flinch in the face of some of the most ferocious slegding I've ever seen :lol:

England will be tough for Australia to bowl out twice, but there's some hope for Australia, particularly if one/both of Pietersen and Flintoff has a quiet series with the bat.
 
The spin bowler for Australia is a huge issue, but it will be interesting to see how the series goes. But I'm looking forward to the series.
 
It's an unbelievable scenario, but England might be able to use its better spin arsenal to trouble Australia
Now, that is something I thought I'd never see!

And as for Flintoff - as I said upthread, I haven't been keeping up with the game of late, so tell me - has he learned subtlety yet, and progressed from his default batting states of "hit it for six and be the hero/big swinging OMG got bowled"?
 
Well, I'm not anticipating another 5-blot result like last time. I'm far more concerned about our bowling than the batting side of things - and that's a real worry, given that our batting isn't exactly convincing either. Ponting's making a habit of getting out to those lazy swishes outside off stump and if he were anyone else he'd be under some pressure. No one else in the lineup's knocking me out, either.

Bowling-wise...oh, dear. The obsession with Lee is bewildering. He's done nothing in England previously, he has nothing behind him other than some hit 'n' giggle Twenty20 rubbish and a couple of four-day games...and one five-wicket haul later everyone's carrying on like he's Lillee and McGrath combined. It's ridiculous. Again, no one else is particularly convincing. England only need to get through the first session and they could be away.

So...yeah. I'm not exactly looking forward to this series at this stage, but time will tell.
 
And as for Flintoff - as I said upthread, I haven't been keeping up with the game of late, so tell me - has he learned subtlety yet, and progressed from his default batting states of "hit it for six and be the hero/big swinging OMG got bowled"?

Apparently Freddy reckons he's a bowler who bats a bit these days. Either way he's still Australia's biggest threat, it's like having 12 players when you've got someone like him.

Speaking of all rounders, this Adil Rashid looks a bright prospect. He's looked a pretty accomplished bat against Lee and Johnson this morning. Haven't seen him bowl, but one to keep an eye on for sure.
 
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Has Harmison bowled his way into the England team?

He's just knocked over Hughes again with a repeat of the delivery that he got him with in the first innings - a brutal bouncer right at the throat. The media has been talking this series up as Bodyline II because of Hughes' apparent discomfort with the short ball and this will add fuel to the fire.

Not a good development for Hughes and Australia. Hopefully Ponting can get a big score today.
 
Speaking of all rounders, this Adil Rashid looks a bright prospect. He's looked a pretty accomplished bat against Lee and Johnson this morning. Haven't seen him bowl, but one to keep an eye on for sure.
I've not seen him bat but he showed some good bowling in the 20/20. He'll certainly be an option.
 
Interesting there is an article on the Smh website, saying that Lee will swing momentum (according to Simon Jones)

Also good to see North and Clarke get some runs over night. I think Australia will go with 4 pace bowlers.
 
I hope they do - so we're looking at

Katich
Hughes
Ponting
M.Clarke
Hussey
North
Haddin
Johnson
Lee
Siddle
S.Clark
MacDonald (12th)

Strauss
Cook
Bopara
Pietersen
Collingwood
Prior
Flintoff
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Panesar/Harmison/Onions/Sidebottom
 
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Cricket, even more than most sports, is full of oddities...but I have to wonder if even its long and bizarre history includes a match being called off early because an umpire keeled over. :wtf: :lol: Apparently he's okay but it's definitely different.

I remain less than optimistic about this series. Here's hoping it's without cause. :bolian:
 
(Apologies for the double post, bro. :D)

After all the talk and fuss over Lee, what a surprise that yet again he's injured. Everyone's making all the right sorts of noises about it but it just seems so predictable. Th replacement cupboard's pretty bare, too. Ugh. Could be a long series.
 
This mightn't be the worst development from an Aussie point of view. Lee's expensive bowling really doesn't suit the Aussie attack any more. Hilfenhaus is a more likely prospect in England than Lee IMO.

I'm sure the Aussies aren't too upset at England leaving out Harmison.

I'm starting to feel a bit better about our chances in the series - not long to go now...:techman:
 
Almost anyone would be a better prospect in England than Lee. :lol: But I'd forgotten Hilfenhaus - with all the fuss over Lee it's almost as if no one else is there - and I agree that he's a better bet.

I'm mildly surprised about Harmison; after all, the series is in the UK so he shouldn't be too homesick, and when he's "on" he's a pretty useful bowler. A (potential) repeat of the opening delivery of the last Ashes series might have been fun, too. :evil: :D
 
I think they will go with Hilfenhaus as Lee's replacement, but who will open the attack with Johnson. I'm thinking Siddle.
 
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