Spoilers Supergirl - Season 5

[Ghislaine H. B. BRAEME]

I fell by accident on Supergirl's season 4 and I found it so entertaining especially Lex's storyline that it made me want to look at previous seasons. So, maybe this season 4 didn't deserve an award compared to some other DC's series but we can not deny that this season deserved loud and warm applause.

 

[Ghislaine H. B. BRAEME]

As for Lena feeling betrayed by James, one wonders why that doesn't piss her off even more than Kara. I'd love to be a fly on the wall when that argument occurs and James asks her if he has to reveal who Superman is too in order to prove his worth to Lena? (I hated it in season 1 when James tried to pressure Kara into revealing her secret to Lucy so he could advance his love affair since he didn't feel the need to tell her about Superman.)

In fact, maybe that's who we need to bring back to the fold to open Lena's heart to accepting Kara's explanation.

Indeed, Kara and Alex were not the only culprits (... even if in my mind, Kara's reproaches/reaction after she found out about Mon El's family history & Alex 's bad habit to push people - even friends and lovers - until they say and/or do things for which they were rather hesitant, shows a lot of hypocrisy from their part:
they do not want to see things hidden by others, but the opposite is not a problem for them). James is maybe yet more guilty but you know what, this guy showed in previous sesaons a so opportunistic (towards Kara, Lucy Lane) and manipulative (towards Winn) side that his behaviour towards Lena was almost not surprising.
-> I don't know how James Olsen's character was in comic books but in the TV series, he is quite unlikable and his leaving from National City leaves me quite indifferent. But well, it is just an personal opinion.

Kara/Supergirl vs Lena should surely know a lot of lows in season 5 but at the end, their friendship should be renewed and even be stronger, well I hope.

 

[Enterprise is Great]

Mitch Pileggi And Cara Buono Join Season 5 Cast

Buono will recur as Gamemnae, an ancient alien, who with others of her kind, have been safeguarding the Earth from the follies of humanity throughout the ages. Gamemnae’s aim is to use technology to subjegate humans. Gamemnae is cunning, witty, ruthless, and always ten steps ahead of her adversaries. Gamemnae’s agenda puts her into conflict with her would-be allies and on a collision course with Supergirl.

Pileggi will recur as Rama Khan, an ancient alien who is able to control the four ancient elements — fire, water, earth, and air. Arrogant and willful, Rama Khan has been entrusted to use his powers to protect the Earth from mankind for millions of years but now his agenda puts him at odds with Supergirl as well as Lena Luthor.

 

[Christopher]

Pileggi is an odd choice for a character who has Indian heritage and culture in the comics.

 

[Jayson1]

Supergirl took home this year's Saturn Award for Best Superhero TV Series. Other nominees: Arrow, Black Lightning, Marvel's Cloak and Dagger, DC's Legends of Tomorrow, The Flash, and Gotham. The award was presented by Shazam!'s Faithe Herman and Krypton's Cameron Cuffe.

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Congratulations to the Supergirl cast and crew!

Did the CW sponser this event? Legion,The Boys and The Tick don't even get nominated? Jason

 

[Ghislaine H. B. BRAEME]

Pileggi is an odd choice for a character who has Indian heritage and culture in the comics.

Pileggi is an actor who can act so he shouldn't have too much trouble getting into his character and then with a good make up and accessories (=a big beard),this sould pass without worry.
That being said, Pileggi will always be the FBI's Assistant Director Walter Skinner on The X-Files for me.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Pileggi is an odd choice for a character who has Indian heritage and culture in the comics.

Deadline says that he is a million year old alien, so Ramma is not defined by anything Earthly.

Wikipedia says that it's two guys, an Atlantian King from thousands of years ago, and some descendant in modern day who broke the lasso of truth.

Before researching, my instant conclusion was if a geographically locked bunch of humans were being banged by the same immortal Alien, endlessly, then it's the Indians (from India) who look like him and not the other way around, if Rama has taken 40 thousand Kiddy bearing wives in the last 20 thousand years.

 

[Kai "the spy"]

Did the CW sponser this event? Legion,The Boys and The Tick don't even get nominated? Jason

There was a seperate category for streaming original superhero shows, plus The Boys might have been too recent to be considered this year, anyway, bet it will be nominated next year. Daredevil Season 3 won for streaming. Neither Legion nor The Tick were nominated in their respective categories, probably not mainstream enough.

 

[Christopher]

Pileggi is an actor who can act so he shouldn't have too much trouble getting into his character and then with a good make up and accessories (=a big beard),this sould pass without worry.

Good grief, no! Putting a white actor in "good make-up" to play a darker-skinned character is a racist, outdated practice. There are plenty of good Indian actors in the business these days; for instance, The Flash has Sendhil Ramamurthy as its new main villain. I guess they could just ignore the character's ethnicity like Arrow did with Ra's al Ghul, but they sure as hell wouldn't engage in an offensive practice like brownface, actually painting him darker like they did back in the '60s. That was unacceptable even by the '80s, which is why Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan didn't paint Ricardo Montalban brown like "Space Seed" had.

 

[Ghislaine H. B. BRAEME]

Good grief, no! Putting a white actor in "good make-up" to play a darker-skinned character is a racist, outdated practice. There are plenty of good Indian actors in the business these days; for instance, The Flash has Sendhil Ramamurthy as its new main villain. I guess they could just ignore the character's ethnicity like Arrow did with Ra's al Ghul, but they sure as hell wouldn't engage in an offensive practice like brownface, actually painting him darker like they did back in the '60s. That was unacceptable even by the '80s, which is why Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan didn't paint Ricardo Montalban brown like "Space Seed" had.

If producers ask Pileggi to grow his beard and to expose himself under the sun to perfect his tan before entering in his character, where is racism? When I talk about a good make up and beard, these ones can be natural as the beard.

As for the idea to hire people because of their ethnicity to perform specifically a character without knowing if she/he can act, is a rean issue for me (cf s Robert Beltran's Chakotay in Star Trek: Voyager who was never convincing).

 

[Kirk Prime]

Good grief, no! Putting a white actor in "good make-up" to play a darker-skinned character is a racist, outdated practice. There are plenty of good Indian actors in the business these days; for instance, The Flash has Sendhil Ramamurthy as its new main villain.

So by that logic, casting Jimmy Olsen the way they did is also a racist, outdated practice.

 

[Guy Gardener]

Only if Mechad was in White face (Seen White Chicks?)

Christopher blocked me.

Some one tell him that "this" Rama Khan is not Indian.

He's a million year old Alien, who looks like an alien.

 

[Ovation]

So by that logic, casting Jimmy Olsen the way they did is also a racist, outdated practice.

No.

There’s nothing inherent in Jimmy Olsen that REQUIRES him to be white. Moreover, your analogy would only apply if the actor put on “white face” makeup.

Edit: ninja’d by Guy Gardener.

 

[Christopher]

If producers ask Pileggi to grow his beard and to expose himself under the sun to perfect his tan before entering in his character, where is racism? When I talk about a good make up and beard, these ones can be natural as the beard.

It is racist in itself to think that a tanned white person is equivalent to a South Asian person. Other ethnicities are NOT just white people with more hair or melanin.

Very few filmmakers today would be insensitive enough to attempt what you're proposing. Changing characters of other ethnicities to white, sure. That still happens, as we saw with Ra's on Arrow. But trying to "pass off" white actors as other ethnicities by darkening their skin is rarely done anymore, because it's offensive. Disney's recent Aladdin remake came under fire for painting white extras in brownface in crowd scenes, so they reshot them. It's a historically racist and discriminatory practice and thus is inappropriate and irresponsible to use today.

As for the idea to hire people because of their ethnicity to perform specifically a character without knowing if she/he can act, is a rean issue for me (cf s Robert Beltran's Chakotay in Star Trek: Voyager who was never convincing).

Straw man. I never suggested ignoring talent. I explicitly said that there are plenty of good Indian and South Asian actors in the business. Sendhil Ramamurthy. Naveen Andrews. Rahul Kohli. Arjun Gupta. Kal Penn. Aasif Mandvi. Stephen Lobo. Dozens of others. It's not hard to find good Indian actors.

 

[Guy Gardener]

No.

There’s nothing inherent in Jimmy Olsen that REQUIRES him to be white. Moreover, your analogy would only apply if the actor put on “white face” makeup.

Edit: ninja’d by Guy Gardener.

If you think my thoughts like me, at exactly the same second, shouldn't we like Freaky Friday, into each other's bodies?

Just a friendly warning...

Feed my wife, before you try to talk to her.

 

[Ovation]

Thanks for the tip. Pretty sure my Canuckistan mind powers will deflect any Freaky Friday scenarios.

(Just in case...does your wife like poutine?)

 

[Guy Gardener]

Last place we bought Poutine.

"vegan" poutine.

Very unappealing.

 

[Kirk Prime]

There’s nothing inherent in Jimmy Olsen that REQUIRES him to be white. Moreover, your analogy would only apply if the actor put on “white face” makeup.

75 years of the existence of the character show that is simply untrue. But let's ignore that reality and go to something else--Hamilton. The most popular musical in the world consistently recasts actual white people as people of color. How is that not racist?

Meanwhile, you are complaining about an ALIEN, not a human, being cast as a white person, and this alien to my knowledge, has never been depicted on television before.

You can't have it both ways. If your only objection is the makeup, then would you drop that objection if he were just Caucasian?

 

[Guy Gardener]

But Rama Khan was in a couple comic books.

His bio says that he's from a magic land history doesn't remember, but 3000 years ago, he was the king of Atlantis. More recently a descendant, carrying the same name, beat up Wonder Woman.

 

[Jayson1]

Good grief, no! Putting a white actor in "good make-up" to play a darker-skinned character is a racist, outdated practice. There are plenty of good Indian actors in the business these days; for instance, The Flash has Sendhil Ramamurthy as its new main villain. I guess they could just ignore the character's ethnicity like Arrow did with Ra's al Ghul, but they sure as hell wouldn't engage in an offensive practice like brownface, actually painting him darker like they did back in the '60s. That was unacceptable even by the '80s, which is why Star Trek: The Wrath of Khan didn't paint Ricardo Montalban brown like "Space Seed" had.

The character is proably going to represent toxic masculinty and they are afraid of the backlash of doing that to a indian character. You can tell the difference in the villians in how they are described. She will be more cunning using technology against people. He will be more primitive using the simple elements. Jason