Stargate on Apophis' Ship

[All Seeing Eye]

I recall way back in history that when Apophis sent ships to attack Earth he had a Stargate on his ship and SG-1 was able to gate to it.

Was the Gate on his ship able to gate to anywhere in the universe? I was under the impression that the gates had to be where they were supposed to be in order to make a connection. The gate bridge between the Milky Way and Pegasus I guess is able to be done because the Stargates are stationary between the Galaxies whereas a gate on a ship is constantly on the move.

So if there was a Stargate on a ship would it just work or would Earth have to tamper with the gate in order for it to function from anywhere in the universe as it's travelling?

 

[SalvorHardin]

The gate on Apophis' ship was only able to work before his ship departed and while it was close to a planet, if I remember correctly.

As soon as the ship was on its way to Earth the gate stopped functioning. So it wouldn't function anywhere in the universe.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Well with what i've read about the new series 'Stargate Universe' the ship the ancients sent after the gateship will have a Stargate onboard which is how the Earth team is going to get there. The fact the ship is always on the move means that gate travel is possible onboard a moving ship.

Which is why I think the new series should have been set instead onboard a new class of Earth ship outfitted with a Stargate capable of travelling anywhere in the universe no matter if the gate was on the move or not.

 

[Hermiod]

A Stargate needs to be in a fixed location so that the point of origin symbol will work. In the case of Daniel using the Stargate aboard Apophis' ship, that ship was in orbit around Earth at the time and so Earth's point of origin symbol worked.

Regardless, given that ships in Stargate normally make their interstellar or even intergalactic journeys via hyperspace, they wouldn't be able to use the Stargate no matter where they were in the universe.

The Gate Bridge is an unusual case because Stargates are not supposed to behave in the manner McKay and Carter made them in the first place. They have no DHDs are are entirely reliant on McKay and Carter's software macro to make them forward the traveller on to the next Stargate. This presumably uses a set of addresses Carter and McKay figured out in advance.

 

[Meredith]

A Stargate needs to be in a fixed location so that the point of origin symbol will work. In the case of Daniel using the Stargate aboard Apophis' ship, that ship was in orbit around Earth at the time and so Earth's point of origin symbol worked.

Regardless, given that ships in Stargate normally make their interstellar or even intergalactic journeys via hyperspace, they wouldn't be able to use the Stargate no matter where they were in the universe.

The Gate Bridge is an unusual case because Stargates are not supposed to behave in the manner McKay and Carter made them in the first place. They have no DHDs are are entirely reliant on McKay and Carter's software macro to make them forward the traveller on to the next Stargate. This presumably uses a set of addresses Carter and McKay figured out in advance.

As we saw with "The Lost Tribe" Hyperspace and the Wormholes of the stargates are connected enough to allow one device to screw both of them up. Maybe it isn't the gate on the ship that moves around that isn't different, but maybe you need a special type of Hyperspace engine that can open a sub-hyperspace window within it to allow you to use a gate when traveling at Hyperspacey speeds....


ASCII Diagramme:


<Normal Space>

Gate Ship in Normal Space Other Gate
--|-------------------------------------------|-----
| |
| <Hyperspace> |
| Ship in Hyperspace w/gate |
--|-----------------------------|-------------|-------
| <Subspace> | |
| | |
|________________________|___________|



So to get to subspace the wormhole has to tunnel through the Hyperspace domain, to get to the subspace domain.

Speed of LIght or C

Slow - Normal Space
Really Fast - Hyperspace
Ridiculous Speed - Subspace



This could all be related to Heim threory, well soemhow.

 

[David cgc]

Wouldn't it just be simpler to say no activating stargates in hyperspace, ever?

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Wouldn't it just be simpler to say no activating stargates in hyperspace, ever?

But Apophis' ship was in hyperspace when SG-1 got aboard via the gate.

 

[Brent]

Wouldn't it just be simpler to say no activating stargates in hyperspace, ever?

But Apophis' ship was in hyperspace when SG-1 got aboard via the gate.

Negative, it was not. The ship was in orbit around a planet, they gated to it. Then the ship went into hyperspace, making the gate useless. The gate can only connect to another gate when both gates are near a planet. The only exception is the Gate Bridge which was re-programmed to forward you through each one, never actually materializing though until you hit the middle space station.

 

[All Seeing Eye]

Negative, it was not. The ship was in orbit around a planet, they gated to it.

Oh right, i've just got this image in my head of them coming out the Stargate, the stargate shutting off and when they turn around they see a window and outside the window is hyperspace.

 

[Brent]

Negative, it was not. The ship was in orbit around a planet, they gated to it.

Oh right, i've just got this image in my head of them coming out the Stargate, the stargate shutting off and when they turn around they see a window and outside the window is hyperspace.

Nah, once the ship went into to hyperspace they walked around a bit, found a window, and Carter mentioned it couldn't be glass.

 

[Broccoli]

Well with what i've read about the new series 'Stargate Universe' the ship the ancients sent after the gateship will have a Stargate onboard which is how the Earth team is going to get there. The fact the ship is always on the move means that gate travel is possible onboard a moving ship.

Which is why I think the new series should have been set instead onboard a new class of Earth ship outfitted with a Stargate capable of travelling anywhere in the universe no matter if the gate was on the move or not.

Spoiler: SGU

Apparently the 9th Chevron is involved. Perhaps that allows gate travel to the ship if it is not in orbit of a planet.

 

[Borg451]

The gate can only connect to another gate when both gates are near a planet..

you dont just mean it has to be next to a actual planet surely.. u just mean in the location of the galaxy it is set to dial in and out from.. right?

 

[Hermiod]

^As long as any given location in space can be turned in to a point of origin, it can be used. It doesn't have to be near a planet or the Gate Bridge wouldn't work.

 

[Borg451]

^As long as any given location in space can be turned in to a point of origin, it can be used. It doesn't have to be near a planet or the Gate Bridge wouldn't work.

I Know that..

i was asking it of the other guy as his words made it look like an actual planet had something to do with it..