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Starfleet Battles

SeaJay

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Hi all

First post :)

I'm hoping someone might be able to help me. I was on the ADB Starfleet Battles website and was considering buying the Basic Set (the main core rulebook would be too much as a starting point). It was a coin-flip between Federation Commander and the Basic Set and opted for the latter. But when I clicked on the link it said: "Sorry, the product was not found". Does anyone know if the game has been discontinued?

Any info is appreciated.

Thanks all.
 
Hi all

First post :)

I'm hoping someone might be able to help me. I was on the ADB Starfleet Battles website and was considering buying the Basic Set (the main core rulebook would be too much as a starting point). It was a coin-flip between Federation Commander and the Basic Set and opted for the latter. But when I clicked on the link it said: "Sorry, the product was not found". Does anyone know if the game has been discontinued?

Any info is appreciated.

Thanks all.

Member @Nerroth can probably help you with this. He is all about Star Fleet Battles and would be in the know.
 
Ah yes, that's the book. Thank you

But didn't the Basic Set come in a box, with some counters, chits, sheets, charts, etc, and it was in colour?
 
Yes the Basic Set is considered the best starting point. The company themselves say it's not really feasible to try to put the set together yourself by buying separate spare parts.

It's strange that it isn't available right now. Maybe they are revising it, or there are printing/supply issues at the moment.

I do notice that there are some sets on ebay, not sure if it's the most recent edition or what.

Kor
 
I suspect EVERYTHING is in flux there with the collapse of Shapeways.

That was their main route to sell their miniatures since they pretty stopped selling the cast metal/resin kits....

I suspect that the folks behind Starfire are also in that same boat. They were selling 3D minis on Shapeways as well.
 
I contacted ADB and they told me they had run out of the SSDs or something (can't quite remember) but they were expecting more in the future.

Thanks all for the feedback.
 
I hope it isn't too late to reply to this thread...

To clarify: I do not speak for ADB themselves, though I have been fortunate enough to have a few items published by them here and there.

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Whether it be Star Fleet Battles or Federation Commander - or, for that matter, a number of other Star Fleet Universe game systems, such as the strategic-level game Federation and Empire - there are certain components which can be printed on demand at ADB, not least of which being the rulebooks and (in the case of SFB) the SSD books... so long as said books are in black and white, at least.

However, there are other components of certain products, such as countersheets and colour book covers, or the colour laminated Ship Cards used for FC, which have to be ordered from third party vendors. Typically, by my understanding at least, once one (or more) of these components run out of stock, the product they are a part of is put on hold until the next batch of said item (or items) arrive(s).

In some specific cases, there have been changes made to the countersheets themselves. For example: some of the older countersheets for SFB had 216 counters per sheet, and had plain silhouettes for the actual ship on each counter. Newer countersheets have 280 counters on them, often with colour line art for each ship. So, when older countersheets for certain modules are due to be replaced, the countersheet is switched over to the new format - adding 64 "spare" counter spaces that can be used to add new items to the list.

This often runs parallel to updates to the rulebooks and/or SSDs books in the module the countersheet is assigned to. To give another example: some of the older SSD books used an older format, which (among other things) did not include the infamous "Crawford Boxes" seen on more recent SSDs. So, when such-and-such an older module is being updated to the contemporary standards, the SSDs included are often updated to match.

Aside from this, ADB have posted many of their rulebooks and SSD books as PDFs on such sites as Warehouse 23 and DriveThruRPG. Which can be handy, if you want to have a reference file to brush up on while waiting for a physical product to ship to your address!

As for miniatures, there are still a number of the "pre-Shapeways" 3788 and 3125 scale metal minis offered on the ADB storefront. But it might be a while yet before a clearer sense can be had of what the "post-Shapeways" era is going to look like. Or rather, what the "post-Shapeways 1.0" era has in store, not least since the new ownership group behind "Shapeways 2.0" have only just started to talk about their plans for this new iteration of that company.

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One final thing I might suggest - other than popping over to take a look at this thread, if you want to know more about how the technology of the SFU functions in-universe - is to have a look at some of the training files offered as free PDFs by ADB.

In the case of SFB, there is a Cadet Training Handbook, which is intended to teach the basics of how to fly one's ship, how to arm certain types of weapons, and so on and so forth. (The "Cadet-scale" SSDs are scaled down somewhat compared to the "full-scale" SSDs in Basic Set, but should be enough to help get a handle on things.)

Meanwhile, FC has a sample PDF called First Missions, which in turn offers a brief introduction to that game system. Note that, in FC terms, most Ship Cards have a "Fleet Scale" side, which is more or less equivalent to the SFB "Cadet-scale" SSDs; plus a "Squadron Scale" side that is broadly equivalent to "full-size" SFB SSDs.
 
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