The official Star Wars Facebook page posted a first-person video of a ride through 3D rendered Jakku desert. What's really cool though is that you can move the "camera" around as the video progresses. Watch here.
Star Wars: Episode VII: The Nerd Rage Awakens
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Luke makes a point of asking her about "real" mother so he obviously means Padme. Luke lived for some 20 years having no aparent knowledge of his Force related abilities, yet he was still the bush pilot in the outer rim according to Biggs. Luke also tells Leia in that conversation that she too has the same abilities he has.
I'd completely forgotten about the "Jedi princess" background that Padmé was originally intended to have during the early development of the Prequels. I'm glad they didn't go with that. I don't mind her being the Queen of Naboo and later a Senator in the Old Republic, but the concept of a group of warrior-monks having their own version of royalty with regal-sounding titles just doesn't sound like a very good idea.
A bit clunky but not bad.
Yeah, it has some hiccups on Facebook but once it gets going it's interesting to watch.
Lost Star spoilers for state of the galaxy:
Just like in the EU, after the Emperor dies the Empire falls upon itself with in-fighting and a bunch of people trying to take over. Mas Amedda controlled Coruscant initially. One year after Endor is the Battle of Jakku which was a major Imperial defeat. After that, the Empire withdrew to the Core and Inner Rim and a detente existed between them and the New Republic. However the Imperial fleet at that point stopped in-fighting and re-alligned itself into a single entity plotting war.
That's where the novel ended. It left me wondering if after that point, the Empire succeeds in taking out the New Republic which would explain why they're the "Resistance" in The Force Awakens.
That's where the novel ended. It left me wondering if after that point, the Empire succeeds in taking out the New Republic which would explain why they're the "Resistance" in The Force Awakens.
I just love the idea that there were heated and deadly space battles between the victorious Rebels and forces of the Empire across the galaxy after the Battle of Endor. The concept that much of the Empire and its ruthless bureaucracy with secret police and a huge military machine populated with ambitious officers would just give up after learning that both The Emperor and Darth Vader were dead seemed a stretch to put it kindly. The old EU showed that didn't happen and the new novels and other materials clearly support the concept of a Galactic Empire that wasn't going to go down without the bloodiest fight it could muster.
As I mentioned in an earlier post here or in another Episode VII thread I could see the drunken revelers celebrating the death of The Emperor and toppling his statue waking up with hangovers to see angry Imperial military units bearing down on them with weapons drawn and ready to fire. Real world history clearly shows that few tyrannical regimes go down so easily or that quickly, and the death toll continues to build after the dictator and their inner circle are killed off or realize they've been beaten.
Well, I'd say he obviously means that whomever Leia might've grown up with later was not her real mother.
We don't know if either twin even knew about Padme.
Leia couldn't really have a true memory ("images, really, feelings" "She was, very beautiful, kind, but sad") of Padme since she died about 30 seconds after the twins were born.
Luke was asking about Leia's (and Luke's) biological mother, as a segue to discussing their biological father.
Since we are evidently discussing one of the several situations in which the PT retconned the OT, a perfectly adequate fix of the issue arising out of the PT nailing down Padmé's death as having been just after Leia was born would be that, as a young child or infant, Leia had Force visions of Padmé.
I like this idea.
For the most part we've been assuming that the New Republic exists in some form in the new movie and the First Order is trying to retake the galaxy. If the First Order has already done so and the Resistance is the last desperate members of the Rebellion constantly being hunted down. Kevin Smith mentioned that during his set visit that it felt more like a sequel to Empire than Jedi. That had the Rebels on the run the whole time. The French Star Wars Twitter posted a line that was translated to “Together, we will destroy the Resistance and the last Jedi.” This could explain what happened to Luke, he blew up the first Death Star and likely seen responsible for the deaths of the Emperor and Vader. If the First Order sees themselves as the continuation of the Empire, he's public enemy number one.
That's been my interpretation ever since I first saw Revenge of the Sith. Leia experienced a Force memory of her mother in the moments after she was born, and Padmé's sad, pained and exhausted facial expression during the last few seconds of her life became impressed upon infant Leia and those images were later recalled as she grew to maturity.
Bail Organa would later reinforce her memory by repeating that her real, biological mother died when she was far too young to have any real and detailed memories about her, so she never had any reason to doubt the backstory of her true parentage until the events on Endor in ROTJ.
Bail Organa would later reinforce her memory by repeating that her real, biological mother died when she was far too young to have any real and detailed memories about her, so she never had any reason to doubt the backstory of her true parentage until the events on Endor in ROTJ.
One might also argue that no retcon is needed, that the intent all along was that Leia had Force visions of her biological mother, since she says that she just experienced images and had feelings of her.
Not quite. There are seven now.
Reverend said:
Say what? I don't remember anything of the sort.
I think the closest they went a "Jedi Princess" was probably the kids novels with the three eyed Imperial leader chasing her around.
Other than that, she was simply the Princess of what was left of the Alderaanian people and sometimes at least partly trained with the Force/lightsaber. As time went on she lost some of it as she couldn't practice due to her political duties and parental duties. As well as nearly constant crisis as she was almost constantly busy. She was more or less Luke's first student, but most of it was her natural talents (like Luke's). There are some benefits to being the daughter of Anakin Skywalker.
Other than that, she was simply the Princess of what was left of the Alderaanian people and sometimes at least partly trained with the Force/lightsaber. As time went on she lost some of it as she couldn't practice due to her political duties and parental duties. As well as nearly constant crisis as she was almost constantly busy. She was more or less Luke's first student, but most of it was her natural talents (like Luke's). There are some benefits to being the daughter of Anakin Skywalker.
Force visions might go some way explaining Leia's "memories" of Padme, but isn't it also possible - and even more straightforward - that Bail showed Leia some pictures, video of senate meetings etc, and she got some 'regular' images of Padme to back up how she was "beautiful...yet sad" - being in the middle of the clone wars, concern for Anakin and so on would explain the 'sad' bit! It doesn't have to refer to her final moments as she gives birth.
I agree - it's definitely an open issue as to whether Bail told her about Padme or not.
I wonder when Luke and Leia had the initial conversation, the one where one of them brought up the fact that their parents were dead and the other one said, "Holy crap, same here!" Did either of them think it was weird that one of them knew nothing about their mother and the other knew nothing about their father? Did they do a sitcom reaction where they go, "Wait a second..." and look at each other funny before going, "Naaaaah!"?
