"Zero receives a strange message telepathically from a non-corporeal person like himself. The latter is called ION and suggests that he take a detour to his planet in order to help him find a body and senses." - Cygnus-X1.Net
Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 2x08 - "Is There in Beauty No Truth?"
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"Zero receives a strange message telepathically from a non-corporeal person like himself. The latter is called ION and suggests that he take a detour to his planet in order to help him find a body and senses." - Cygnus-X1.Net
I'm on this one now.
Episode 8 might be the most beautiful episode of Star Trek I have seen in years. From the animation to the furthering of the plot to the character development, this is what Star Trek is all about to me. Wow.
What this episode does for Zero and just furthering the idea that this crew is a family is so anti-discovery it's unreal. In that series, Burnham feels like she has to do everything alone. In this series, we have these characters who really genuinely love and look after each other. This episode was incredible.
10.
What this episode does for Zero and just furthering the idea that this crew is a family is so anti-discovery it's unreal. In that series, Burnham feels like she has to do everything alone. In this series, we have these characters who really genuinely love and look after each other. This episode was incredible.
10.
This one was an all-timer for me. Some truly creative "strange new worlds" this season too, of which this was definitely one.
9-10 here. I was a stingy 9. But I think that is probably a 10.
And I love the play on the title of the TOS episode.
A big fat 10.
I loved everything about it, with Zero finally being able to experience what it was like to have a body.
The race here was very different and intriguing, which always grabbed my attention.
I loved the little homages to TNG, and the big one to the TOS episode name. Suitable that Medusans first appeared in Is There in Truth No Beauty.
I loved everything about it, with Zero finally being able to experience what it was like to have a body.
The race here was very different and intriguing, which always grabbed my attention.
I loved the little homages to TNG, and the big one to the TOS episode name. Suitable that Medusans first appeared in Is There in Truth No Beauty.
Wow. A truly fabulous episode. I adore how much these kids love each other.
So that's what Parises Square looks like, quite a cool game.
Kind of an Avatar vibe with the body swapping / construction. Zero getting her body was cool though. 
Another semi-episodic plot, but way, way more effective than the previous episode (almost said last week, heh) because it focuses on a character and explores them.
Zero has had low-level discomfort with their non-corporeal nature building the entire season. Here, the gang finds a planet of non-corporeal beings who can not just fix up their old robo-shell, but give them a whole new humanoid body. While I do have to say I think it's a bit presumptuous to think so many energy beings want to be humanoid (I was always under the presumption that they were considered a higher form in the Trekverse), it does allow for an interesting exploration of the desire for what we cannot have. One could even squint and see a bit of a trans metaphor here, though I'm not sure that was intended.
That said, not all is as it seems. The new humanoid bodies are not supposed to leave the planet (which I expected). More surprisingly, there's a race with life-or-death consequences - very similar to what Discovery did in its past season with Whistlespeak. I think it comes across as more effective here, as it's built into the episode's concept and not tacked on. I also love there was no twist antagonist, the planet was not sinister, and the other embodied energy beings were exactly what they seemed. It both befitted the status of Prodigy as a kid's show and kept to the ethos of Star Trek.
Unsurprisingly, Zero leaves with the others. Surprisingly, they are still embodied - though I expect it will not last all season. Really hope they get to smooch Maj'el before their shell falls apart.
In terms of the overall plot arc, there's not much else to say here, other than by the end the jig is up with the holo-bodies, meaning Voyager will be searching them out again. I do wonder how the hell holo-Gwyn knew she was a hologram - and knew where they were going. I thought there was a partial mind wipe?
Zero has had low-level discomfort with their non-corporeal nature building the entire season. Here, the gang finds a planet of non-corporeal beings who can not just fix up their old robo-shell, but give them a whole new humanoid body. While I do have to say I think it's a bit presumptuous to think so many energy beings want to be humanoid (I was always under the presumption that they were considered a higher form in the Trekverse), it does allow for an interesting exploration of the desire for what we cannot have. One could even squint and see a bit of a trans metaphor here, though I'm not sure that was intended.
That said, not all is as it seems. The new humanoid bodies are not supposed to leave the planet (which I expected). More surprisingly, there's a race with life-or-death consequences - very similar to what Discovery did in its past season with Whistlespeak. I think it comes across as more effective here, as it's built into the episode's concept and not tacked on. I also love there was no twist antagonist, the planet was not sinister, and the other embodied energy beings were exactly what they seemed. It both befitted the status of Prodigy as a kid's show and kept to the ethos of Star Trek.
Unsurprisingly, Zero leaves with the others. Surprisingly, they are still embodied - though I expect it will not last all season. Really hope they get to smooch Maj'el before their shell falls apart.
In terms of the overall plot arc, there's not much else to say here, other than by the end the jig is up with the holo-bodies, meaning Voyager will be searching them out again. I do wonder how the hell holo-Gwyn knew she was a hologram - and knew where they were going. I thought there was a partial mind wipe?
I loved that the non-corporeals didn't turn out to be evil. There was no judgement by the Prodigy crew - they never told them off for having a death race or tried to change their culture.
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Beautiful. Absolutely beautiful!
This was just a beautiful episode. And I'm not talking about just the visuals (which were beautiful, too). The story and the characters... this was just absolutely beautiful STAR TREK.
Zero is my favorite character on PRODIGY. The scene of him with his new body... I couldn't help it, I shed several single man tears. And did so again... and again throughout the rest of the episode.
This episode managed to do what DISCO never really could do... make you feel that these characters were truly connected to each other. This is EXACTLY what was missing from those arc based seasons... a breathing room, character focused episode. And PRODIGY managed to do it and still NOT make it feel like it was dragging the season!
This episode was not just a 10, this was an 11!
Absolutely THE BEST episode of the franchise since it's return in 2017.
This was just a beautiful episode. And I'm not talking about just the visuals (which were beautiful, too). The story and the characters... this was just absolutely beautiful STAR TREK.
Zero is my favorite character on PRODIGY. The scene of him with his new body... I couldn't help it, I shed several single man tears. And did so again... and again throughout the rest of the episode.
This episode managed to do what DISCO never really could do... make you feel that these characters were truly connected to each other. This is EXACTLY what was missing from those arc based seasons... a breathing room, character focused episode. And PRODIGY managed to do it and still NOT make it feel like it was dragging the season!
This episode was not just a 10, this was an 11!
Absolutely THE BEST episode of the franchise since it's return in 2017.
Wonderful episode overall. This season is on fire, so far.
The thing that struck me this episode, allthough it has been going on with a couple of breaks since basically episode 3, is that the premise of season 2 was seemingly so different from season 1: the Protogies would be studying under Janeway and Gwyn would be off on her own, isolated from the others. Yet, what we actually have been getting the last few episodes is back to the original premise: five misfits on a 'borrowed' starship gallivanting about the Galaxy doing their own thing. Well played, Hagemans.
This episode, allthough Zero's plot on the planet of the week was interesting (and the desire to be corporeal, or to experience it anyway as it is likely not permanent, was well integrated in earlier episodes starting with his empty mug in the opener), I actually was impressed most by what happened on Voyager-A. Majel oozes competence, and Janeway's patience and compassion is actually quite astounding. Maybe she was secretly hoping the kids would go after Chakotay anyway.
I was less emotional about Zero's storyline than most here though, mainly because it's well established now that those characters act with kindness. This was not the case when they rescued Gwyn back on murder planet, or when Rok was stranded alone in her slow moving timebubble on the Protostar and she saved the day. Or when the crew finally came together with a good plan in the finale of season 1A. Even Zero already had his moments when they specifically got embraced by the others, notably after the encounter with the Borg. So emotionally, for me it's more of the same but less impactful.
Still a 10 though.
The thing that struck me this episode, allthough it has been going on with a couple of breaks since basically episode 3, is that the premise of season 2 was seemingly so different from season 1: the Protogies would be studying under Janeway and Gwyn would be off on her own, isolated from the others. Yet, what we actually have been getting the last few episodes is back to the original premise: five misfits on a 'borrowed' starship gallivanting about the Galaxy doing their own thing. Well played, Hagemans.
This episode, allthough Zero's plot on the planet of the week was interesting (and the desire to be corporeal, or to experience it anyway as it is likely not permanent, was well integrated in earlier episodes starting with his empty mug in the opener), I actually was impressed most by what happened on Voyager-A. Majel oozes competence, and Janeway's patience and compassion is actually quite astounding. Maybe she was secretly hoping the kids would go after Chakotay anyway.
I was less emotional about Zero's storyline than most here though, mainly because it's well established now that those characters act with kindness. This was not the case when they rescued Gwyn back on murder planet, or when Rok was stranded alone in her slow moving timebubble on the Protostar and she saved the day. Or when the crew finally came together with a good plan in the finale of season 1A. Even Zero already had his moments when they specifically got embraced by the others, notably after the encounter with the Borg. So emotionally, for me it's more of the same but less impactful.
Still a 10 though.
I was really worried that the people on the planet were up to something sinister so I was very pleasantly happy that they were totally cool people.
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