"A Starfleet Admiral digs into the past of the Protostar crew. Meanwhile, the Diviner recalls his life’s mission." - TrekMovie.com
Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x16 - "Preludes"
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"A Starfleet Admiral digs into the past of the Protostar crew. Meanwhile, the Diviner recalls his life’s mission." - TrekMovie.com
Yup.They're late again
A few people like me were able to watch it on AppleTV.
I thought this was absolutely incredible... Wonderful back stories on some of the characters, and bringing back Medusan and Tellarite ships were lovely nods..! I still think the whole 'time travel' element is overly, needlessly complicated, but at least it was visually gripping... And the flashbacks of Chakotay were great..! All in all, one of the best PRO eps I've seen thus far, and that's saying a lot...
Out of all the main characters from Voyager. Captain Chakotay seems to be the only one whose future is bleak. He and his crew are trapped god knows how many years into the future with no way to get home.
I'll say this at least Admiral Janeway and the Dauntless crew are finally starting to put two and two together. Hopefully they'll be able to make four and figure out whats going on.
I would assume a rescue mission is in the cards, given Janeway’s purpose on the Dauntless. Then again, after that ending…
So the Kazon are working for The Diviner then - seems like all the extraction squads are Kazon
The Medusans were on what seems to be an Olympic Class variant
Rohk Tak was a pro wrestler
Jankam Pog is a little bit Hodor with how his speech quirks came about but a really good explanation for how he ended up speaking in the 3rd person so much and also how much mental trauma he seems to have gone through with it
The Medusans were on what seems to be an Olympic Class variant
Rohk Tak was a pro wrestler
Jankam Pog is a little bit Hodor with how his speech quirks came about but a really good explanation for how he ended up speaking in the 3rd person so much and also how much mental trauma he seems to have gone through with it
The Medusan starship was first seen in the remastered TOS episode "Is There in Truth No Beauty?".
That is what the Medusan ship looked like in TOS-Remastered
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Medusan_vessel
No it doesn’t. It just shows he hired mostly Kazon.
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Oh yes it does.
I don't see how. They'd have to retcon the first 2 seasons of VOY in that case - and since Prodigy is a sort of 'continuation' of VOY (or closely connected to it), then I doubt they would retcon all Kazon worked for the Diviner in 2360-ies... and that just doesn't track with what we know of the Kazon as a whole (at least those on the other side of the galaxy).
I would imagine that this particular Kazon had others with him when he found a TW conduit to the DQ... closer to the BQ/DQ border (in the galactic core) where Tars Lamora is located - so that ship and crew seemingly began operating in that part of the galaxy instead and just ended up being hired mostly by the Diviner.
All in all it was a good episode.
A little background info on the crew of the Protostar, and its surprising how Janeway managed to (nicely) deduce the kids have simply found themselves in over their heads... and she understands better their motivations (especially after being slaves, sold or bartered by other individuals)... but what she doesn't understand is why they refuse hails (obviously because the living construct could infect the Dauntless and the rest of SF, but Janeway doesn't know this yet).
And dangit... she just HAD to enter at an inopportune moment and was knocked uncoscious (at least she wasn't killed).
Things are certainly getting interesting.
Chakotay and his crew are seemingly stuck in the future on Solum still - will be fascinating to see how/if they manage to get back - maybe this will end up being the driving point of the second season once the immediate situation in the late 24th century is resolved, but with the possibility of time travel and how it could lead to unpredictable outcomes... maybe SF in the present will have standing orders to send a rescue party to Solum when the time comes - so Chakotay and his crew might end up remaining in the future for all we know - and I was at least somewaht right in deducing how the Protostar managed to end up where it did. Plus, the dialogue made it seem like the 'Order' sent people intentionally back in time with tech they had at their disposal, but it turns out they used an unstable wormhole which brough the Protostar to them in the first place... so it stands to reason they'd be deposited in random points in time searching for the ship.
It seems the Protostar ended up traveling through a wormhole by accident (but we don't know if the wormhole itself was a natural phenomenon or if it was something generated by the Proto drive/core).
If it was a consequence of using the proto core, it would explain why it would be considered 'unreliable' (however, this doesn't track entirely because even misaligned Warp engines can create Wormholes as evidenced by TMP and Warp wasn't abandoned as a result). Thus far, the Protostar jumping twice with the teens onboard did NOT result in time travel.
I'm inclined to think (for now) the wormhole was a freak (natural) occurrence and had nothing to do with the Proto drive.
This is easily the best episode of Prodigy in at least the last few weeks - arguably the best one in the second part of the season to date. It by all rights shouldn't work, but somehow it does.
The episode basically doesn't have a plot to speak of. Yes, there's some forward movement in the last five minutes or so of the episode on the Dauntless, but the Protostar is stuck in place with repairs, and the kids do absolutely nothing. Instead the entire episode is set aside to a series of flashbacks. An episode entirely created out of what are unrelated vignettes should by all accounts fail, but the focus here on character helps it to stay fresh when it came to the kids. Rok-Tahk's vignette was by far the standout, but they all had appeal since they never told the same story twice.
I had more issues with Ascencia's speech. On one hand, the stiches were showing in terms of writing. I could clearly tell they set up the Diviner's memory loss in part to allow for the infodump here, and "as you know Bob" is a pretty terrible writing trope. Also, Ascencia is retelling a lot of stuff we already know, even if it's stuff that the Diviner forgot within universe. On the other hand, for whatever reason I found her monologue regarding the predicament of Solum more compelling than when the Diviner explained it to Gwyn. The show got me to see her as more than just a villain, which is a great success. To top it off, I'm glad that the end of the episode signals that we won't have to sit around and have a fake conflict between Vice-Admiral Janeway and the kids for the remainder of the season.
So yeah, I'd say we're heading back on track after a few slightly underwhelming episodes. Let's see if this keeps up.
The episode basically doesn't have a plot to speak of. Yes, there's some forward movement in the last five minutes or so of the episode on the Dauntless, but the Protostar is stuck in place with repairs, and the kids do absolutely nothing. Instead the entire episode is set aside to a series of flashbacks. An episode entirely created out of what are unrelated vignettes should by all accounts fail, but the focus here on character helps it to stay fresh when it came to the kids. Rok-Tahk's vignette was by far the standout, but they all had appeal since they never told the same story twice.
I had more issues with Ascencia's speech. On one hand, the stiches were showing in terms of writing. I could clearly tell they set up the Diviner's memory loss in part to allow for the infodump here, and "as you know Bob" is a pretty terrible writing trope. Also, Ascencia is retelling a lot of stuff we already know, even if it's stuff that the Diviner forgot within universe. On the other hand, for whatever reason I found her monologue regarding the predicament of Solum more compelling than when the Diviner explained it to Gwyn. The show got me to see her as more than just a villain, which is a great success. To top it off, I'm glad that the end of the episode signals that we won't have to sit around and have a fake conflict between Vice-Admiral Janeway and the kids for the remainder of the season.
So yeah, I'd say we're heading back on track after a few slightly underwhelming episodes. Let's see if this keeps up.
In some ways it was the most paper-thin episode of the whole series to date and just a flashback episode with a couple of segues to Admiral Janeway on the Dauntless and the Diviner, but for its limited scope and purpose it worked. I loved seeing Medusans in their natural state and the TOS-style ship which was copied from the Remastered version of "Is There In Truth No Beauty?" I was hoping Janklom's flashback would be more than just a wacky repair montage aboard his sleeper ship, but at least now we know he's well over 200 years old and was cryogenically frozen for part of that time.
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The only retcon with the Kazon would be that the various Kazon sects were scattered all throthe Delta Quadrant instead of the one small portion we saw in the first couple of seasons of VOY.
This isn't much of a retcon, either. The Kazon were never a unified species. The various sects were not friends despite their common ancestry
This isn't much of a retcon, either. The Kazon were never a unified species. The various sects were not friends despite their common ancestry
It was kind of fun seeing a Kazon and a Klingon standing next to one another seeing how the Kazon were originally intended to be sort of the Klingons of the Delta Quadrant. A very sad, inferior version of the Klingons. 
It was kind of fun seeing a Kazon and a Klingon standing next to one another seeing how the Kazon were originally intended to be sort of the Klingons of the Delta Quadrant. A very sad, inferior version of the Klingons.
Hopefully, that will be rectified in the future. I have had the thought that at some point the Klingons from "Prophecy" would come into contact with the Kazons and would inspire or more actively cause the Kazons to unite and become more of a force to be reckoned with.
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