Spoilers Star Trek: Prodigy 1x13 - "All the World's a Stage"
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They're not pretending, it is Season 1.So they're still pretending that this is season 1, despite the huge gap?
It's not the longest gap between 2 halves of a season in history.
I remember one BSG season and Caprica Season 1 having like a year long gap between season halves.
Maybe other people can point out others.
That's how it's always been treated so any contracts are still in place in Season 1. They are not pretending anything, since contracts carry real world obligations, especially for credits.So they're still pretending that this is season 1, despite the huge gap?
Seven months for both, actually, compared to Prodigy's eight month gap. And in BSG's case, that was because of the writer's strike. Other seasons with comparable gaps between seasons Stargate SG-1 season 10 and Stargate Atlantis season 3 with six months, though only in the US, other countries either aired them with a much shorter gap in the season, or no gap at all. Doctor Who season 7 also had a six month gap between in the middle of the season, though a Christmas special did air in the middle of that gap.
Morse code with a flashlight through the windowsJust had another thought:
The kids know that even the simple act of opening a hailing frequency will spread the Diviner's virus. But there's ways around that.
What about sending out a physical object? Like a torpedo? Put a PADD in it that isn't connected to the Protostar's computer system, and program that PADD to send a message. Problem solved.
Or, if even that is too risky: Just write a damn letter.
Maybe he wasn't armed?
A hand written letter on a piece of paper might not work (at least initially).
We've seen in Trek that hand writing is considered to be 'ancient' method of keeping records.
While its very likely that SF officers (and UFP citizens in general) ARE educated to know how to both read and write (by hand - Chakotay knew), the kids might not know how to write stuff by hand (since I doubt the Diviner would have provided such basic education at his slave mining colony)... and even if they did, would they be able to do Federation standard?
Holo Janeway could hand write it in that case and the kids could then try to find a way to leave that message... but then you're faced with another issue - why would admiral Janeway want to read something from people whom she thinks stole the Protostar?
Then there's also the possibility the kids might not even THINK about hand writing a message (especially if they are not accustomed to that way of thinking).
He did have a phaser with him.
He might not have think of it.
In fairness, sometimes we might be being a bit too harsh to the characters because in real life, stressful situations CAN overwhelm us in a certain way and prevent us from contemplating numerous options. Even the basics sometimes are forgotten for a brief amount of time - but, on a starship which is fully crewed by trained people (who are also supposed to be disciplined), you wouldn't/shouldn't have a shortage of good/sensible/logical ideas for which solutions would exist because even if someone does get temporarily 'frozen' in thought process, someone else wouldn't - and on a fully crewed starship, the suspense is less plausible than on a ship which has kids in basic training (who don't even know the full extent of Protostar's technological capabilities).
The ensign was alone... and if he was on his death bed, he may have been preoccupied with that. Or, he thought he did everything he could initially, but the conditions inside the mountain changed, and ended up causing the problem slowly over time (by which time, the ensign was no longer in a shape to do anything about it or he may have forgotten about it because he thought he took care of the issue and may not have connected the dots to think it might be the shuttle).
Also, the way the kids 'solved' the problem seems a bit troublesome. Its seemingly a patch, and if the contaminated plasma/dilithium mixture seeps out into the surrounding environment due to cracks or something else, the local population could be in danger.
I would have felt better if they found a way to neutralize the toxic plasma.
On another end, its interesting to note that the bussard collectors from the badly damaged/wrecked 23rd century shuttle still worked over 100 years after the accident - a testament to SF engineering I suppose (and a rare occurrence in Trek - given that most of the time we've seen SF stuff gets damaged its no longer functional - a good change of pace... only with detrimental effects this time).
We've seen in Trek that hand writing is considered to be 'ancient' method of keeping records.
While its very likely that SF officers (and UFP citizens in general) ARE educated to know how to both read and write (by hand - Chakotay knew), the kids might not know how to write stuff by hand (since I doubt the Diviner would have provided such basic education at his slave mining colony)... and even if they did, would they be able to do Federation standard?
Holo Janeway could hand write it in that case and the kids could then try to find a way to leave that message... but then you're faced with another issue - why would admiral Janeway want to read something from people whom she thinks stole the Protostar?
Then there's also the possibility the kids might not even THINK about hand writing a message (especially if they are not accustomed to that way of thinking).
He did have a phaser with him.
He might not have think of it.
In fairness, sometimes we might be being a bit too harsh to the characters because in real life, stressful situations CAN overwhelm us in a certain way and prevent us from contemplating numerous options. Even the basics sometimes are forgotten for a brief amount of time - but, on a starship which is fully crewed by trained people (who are also supposed to be disciplined), you wouldn't/shouldn't have a shortage of good/sensible/logical ideas for which solutions would exist because even if someone does get temporarily 'frozen' in thought process, someone else wouldn't - and on a fully crewed starship, the suspense is less plausible than on a ship which has kids in basic training (who don't even know the full extent of Protostar's technological capabilities).
The ensign was alone... and if he was on his death bed, he may have been preoccupied with that. Or, he thought he did everything he could initially, but the conditions inside the mountain changed, and ended up causing the problem slowly over time (by which time, the ensign was no longer in a shape to do anything about it or he may have forgotten about it because he thought he took care of the issue and may not have connected the dots to think it might be the shuttle).
Also, the way the kids 'solved' the problem seems a bit troublesome. Its seemingly a patch, and if the contaminated plasma/dilithium mixture seeps out into the surrounding environment due to cracks or something else, the local population could be in danger.
I would have felt better if they found a way to neutralize the toxic plasma.
On another end, its interesting to note that the bussard collectors from the badly damaged/wrecked 23rd century shuttle still worked over 100 years after the accident - a testament to SF engineering I suppose (and a rare occurrence in Trek - given that most of the time we've seen SF stuff gets damaged its no longer functional - a good change of pace... only with detrimental effects this time).
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there was a phaser in the display. And there are ways to seal caves without one anyway.
I forgot about the phaser. 
But yes, it is important to point out that Garrovick was wounded and probably very ill - both from the crash and the same toxic runoff that was killing the natives. So he may not have even been able to make it out there to phaser the cave shut.
But yes, it is important to point out that Garrovick was wounded and probably very ill - both from the crash and the same toxic runoff that was killing the natives. So he may not have even been able to make it out there to phaser the cave shut.
The one that was blown out of the Protostar due to Gwyn decompressing the engine room? Yes, that's another option to get Drednok back into play.
Gwyn can read written Klingon. I guess she could handwrite Federation standard if needed (and if they thought of it).
Having said that, they first need to get close to a Starfleet vessel or installation and that's risky for several reasons. They don't yet know the Dauntless is chasing them, and once they realise the intentions of Janeway will not be friendly so they may not have the opportunity to eject a paper message (or a padd) or use morse code or other similar solutions.
There's another problem.
Just because Gwyn can read, it doesn't mean that she can write. Reading and writing do not come hand in hand.
Yes, I would imagine that Gwyn may have learned both, but we don't know (however, as I saaid before, holo-Janeway could).
Also, typing things on a pad, or dictating it for the computer to input the words and handwriting a message aren't the same thing.
If all digital means of creating a message are out the door (which I suspect they might not be) then a hand written message or a go-between ship/species to serve as a means to transmit messages between the Protostar and the Dauntless or another SF ship/facility would be needed (or even a face to face meeting of course once everyone gets a wind of the situation).
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Or just beam down to a neutral world/ship and use their communications facilities to contact the federation.
Yes, but the world in question would need to be willing to provide access to subspace comms. As we've seen in live action... not many species appreciate the use of their communications to contact governments of unfamiliar intentions, or ones they're not affiliated with that well.
And we don't know if their subspace capabilities would be powerful enough to reach the Federation (though the Dauntless is closer).
Plus, its possible Janeway and the Dauntless won't give the Protostar crew a chance to do this much.
From the preview pictures and episode description of the next episode, it looks like the teens indeed will attempt to secure transport by other means to the Federation, and dr. Noum from the Dauntless even meets Jankom on the planet (though he may not yet know, at that point, that Jankom arrived on the Protostar). That may make further attempts to communicate academic, for the time being, as things obviously won't yet lead to the Dauntless crew getting the correct picture.
Excellent point. There's got to be some other friendly races out there who would not have a problem with one of the kids beaming over and asking to send a message. It would probably have to be non-Starfleet, but it would be possible. A Klingon vessel, perhaps?
What if the Klingons try to shoot the kids?
The Dauntless might signal back saying that the Protostar has been comandeered by unknown forces and presto, the UFP would put a target on the Protostar - or at the very least they might warn the neighbouring species that whoever is in control of the Protostar, they are NOT Starfleet.
It may not actually get that far obviously... but who knows. Getting to a 'neutral planet' might be a problem.
The frozen planet I take it?
Yes, but then the Dauntless would put a dent into that plan by showing up and of course, something will happen on the planet which would prompt them to run away and got back to the Protostar (which will in turn cause a run and chase).
Yes, the frozen planet.
As to the other thing - involving Klingons or Romulans is probably a bad idea, because both (especially the latter, but the former were generally not to be trusted either during much of TNG and DS9) would see a massive opportunity to take (or at least get access to) state-of-the-art experimental Federation technology, as well as a weapon that could (reputedly) destroy Starfleet. Their reaction may be similar to the Borg - let's "assimilate" it all and take the crew captive (or worse).
Just watched this weeks toon. I don’t know why they did not get the original actors back to voice the spoofs. It would have been cool if James T was voiced by Shatner, and Sulu by George Takei etc. but perhaps they were too expensive to hire? I was trying to link this in with a particular TOS episode, but I could not find a direct connection. At first I thought that it could have been a sequel to ‘The Apple’, in the same vein as to ‘A Piece of the Action’ on Sigma Iota after their visit from the Horizon, but I was wrong. The red shirts uniform in the frame could have been Malloy’s if that was the case. It’s a shame that the Galileo was causing so much damage to the planet and it’s eco system after it crashed, it was a bit like Chernobyl. I’m glad that they managed to fix it all in the end though. 
I rate this weeks episode 19/10
I rate this weeks episode 19/10
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"the apple" is the first time we see the Galileo II, so would have had to take place after Garrovick went MIA.
whenever the incident occurred, it had to be between "Immunity syndrome" (the last time we see the Galileo 'I') and "The Apple" when we first see the Galileo II. that is, the latter half of 2268 and the first quarter of 2269, give or take.
whenever the incident occurred, it had to be between "Immunity syndrome" (the last time we see the Galileo 'I') and "The Apple" when we first see the Galileo II. that is, the latter half of 2268 and the first quarter of 2269, give or take.
Could it be Captain Garrovick of the USS Farragut’s son, David, who crashed on the planet? His son was an ensign on the USS Enterprise under the command of Kirk so could have had access to the Galileo shuttle. It would be tragic if it was him. It could all just be a coincidence though. 
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