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Star Trek/Planet of the Apes crossover

I just saw a tweet on this just prior to logging on here. I do like the crossovers and find them entertaining. I love the cover art for this first issue and I'm looking forward to seeing what they do with this.
 
That's why I'm not too fond of science fiction crossovers as a rule -- SF universes, by their very nature, are about creating their own distinctive histories and physics and planets and species, so they're usually irreconcilable with one another on a pretty fundamental level. Stories like this have to be treated as "imaginary stories," more playful thought experiments than anything that could'e "actually" happened. They can be fun on that level, so long as you don't read too much into them. Still, I'd be happier to see crossovers between franchises that plausibly could go in the same universe, though that would be much harder to achieve.

Heh, you sure put a lot of thought into how not to put a lot of thought into something.
 
That's why I'm not too fond of science fiction crossovers as a rule -- SF universes, by their very nature, are about creating their own distinctive histories and physics and planets and species.

Then too, I could see DC's Grodd in a cross-over quite easily.
 
"Let us redefine entertainment to mean that just because we can do a thing it does not necessarily follow that we must do that thing."

Or, to put it more succinctly: :barf:

ME
 
I love this, at least for a one-shot or a mini-series. I mean, what's not to love? Star Trek, talking apes, I love it.

"Get your hands off me you damned dirty apes!"

- Byron
 
Have there ever been sapient apes in TrekLit before?

I know some sci-fi series, especially written ones, where half the aliens are anthropomorphised animals. Gorillas are their choice.
 
Have there ever been sapient apes in TrekLit before?

Well, there are humans.

No other species of Terran ape, as far as I recall. Though in The Eugenics Wars Vol. 1, there was a Project Chrysalis member named Carlos Quintana who'd had gorilla DNA spliced with his, making him big, strong, and somewhat apelike.

But there have been some apelike aliens. Harbinger mentioned a chief petty officer named Sozlok, belonging to an unnamed apelike species. Section 31: Abyss mentions an apelike species called the Ingavi. Intellivore mentions Trill feather-apes as fairly self-aware animals. And there's the uplifted Mugato Ensign Janos in New Frontier. Canonically there are the anthropoids from "The Galileo Seven," who were intelligent enough to make tools. As kids, my sister and I always called them "gorilly-monsters."
 
Personal comic crossover dream would be Star Trek: Jurassic Park. (Jurassic Star? Jurassic Trek? ;))

Commodore Hammond,

It is Starfleet Command's considered opinion that your claims of impending threat from probes seeking to communicate in "the ancient song of the Tyrannosaurus" are spurious at best. Your request for a "heavily reinforced cargo vessel, to attempt slingshot manoeuvre around the sun" is hereby denied.

PS: The Pahkwa-thanh Councillor wishes it known that noting her accomplishments with an admiring "clever girl!" is considered demeaning. Please refrain.
 
Has Star Trek done dinosaur planets before? We had a trip back to the dinosaurs in First Frontier and evolved dinosaurs in "Distant Origin," but any Lost Worldesque dinosaur planets in the present?

Ah, I see there was a Peter Pan record/comic called "Dinosaur Planet." Sounds amazing!
 
Anyway, surely Humans are fellow primates but not apes, are they?

That's what we used to pretend, but genetically speaking, we're more closely related to chimpanzees than either gorillas or orangutans are; in other words, we branched off from chimps later than they branched off from gorillas and orangs. So if those other genera are all great apes, then we, being in between, must be as well. Therefore, modern taxonomy defines humans (genus Homo) as a species of great ape (family Hominidae, formerly split betwen Hominidae for humans and Pongidae for other apes, but now consolidated).



Ah, I see there was a Peter Pan record/comic called "Dinosaur Planet." Sounds amazing!

I've read it. It isn't.

It's actually on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzxZ_uPCCZo
 
Has Star Trek done dinosaur planets before? We had a trip back to the dinosaurs in First Frontier and evolved dinosaurs in "Distant Origin," but any Lost Worldesque dinosaur planets in the present?

Ah, I see there was a Peter Pan record/comic called "Dinosaur Planet." Sounds amazing!

In Star Trek Online the Voth are using form of dinosaurs: The V-Rex...and raptor-like creatures.
 
In Star Trek Online the Voth are using form of dinosaurs: The V-Rex...and raptor-like creatures.

Yeah, and one of my chars has a raptor hatchling pet. Considered giving one to my Gorn but found that vaguely racist. Anyway, aren't they adorable?

"DON'T you want an Epohh friend??!" :rommie:
 
TOS/Invaders crossover (The Invaders also had some Gold Key comics)

1968. David Vincent is tracking down latest Invader sighting…hears rumours from some nut of something having crashed in Vasquez Rocks type place so heads out there, eventually finds crashed ship – not a saucer but a more square type craft…….goes inside and discovers what he believes are some invaders, wearing multicoloured tops (not the standard green suits). The ones wearing red are dead…. the one in blue with pointed ears is unconscious….

turns out a shuttlecraft commandeered by Spock on way back to Ent from some mission has been thrown back in time via some kind of rift and crash landed Galileo 7 style on 60s earth – what follows would be Spock teaming up with Vincent in an attempt to get back to his own time – utilising Invaders technology…(i.e. have to repair shuttle to get back into space to get through rift using saucer components – therefore Spock&Vincent do battle with Invaders, who in turn are after Spock for knowledge of the future…)
 
hopefully Star Trek/Aliens next

Much as I would love to read that -- because I've dreamed of that very thing for twenty years -- I'm not sure that it would really work. The problem, for me, is that the Aliens franchise has a deeply cynical view of humanity while Star Trek, even in its most morally conflicted incarnations (Deep Space Nine and Vanguard) are still a bit too rosy. Alien is, in a lot of ways, your worst case first contact scenario, and that's something Star Trek doesn't really do. Humanity in Star Trek, despite the odds, still finds a way to triumph, while in Aliens humanity can't even survive when confronted with the reality that the universe is implacable hostile to human life.

Unless Star Trek/Alien were done as an alternate universe tale in which you rewrite Alien by setting it in the Star Trek universe and replacing the Nostromo with one of the Enterprises and see how that deforms the traditional Star Trek narrative, then I don't really see the point.

Hmm, Chekov or Geordi as Kane. Yeah, I could get onboard with that. :)

Star Trek/Predator, on the other hand, I think could work very, very well.

STvA:
http://www.trekbbs.com/showthread.php?t=225337
 
I love both franchises so this makes me very happy.
It will be interesting to see how they combine the mythologies.
 
Having recently seen Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, nice & excited about this one. Can totally see it working with Kirk & co.
 
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Having recently seen Dawn of the Planet of the Apes, nice & excited about this one. Can totally seek it working with Kirk & co.

I can't be the only one who thinks the titles of the reboot films are the wrong way round. Surely the first one should have been the Dawn and the second one the Rise?
 
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