Spoilers Star Trek 14: Section 31 Starships Discussion

[Markonian]

Star Trek: Section 31 (the movie) is out and has new spacecraft!

In no particular order:
1. Baraam: an unaffiliated warp-capable space station of unknown origin in the shape of a flattened, hollowed Terry's Chocolate Orange. It gives me jewelry vibes.
2. At least some of the ships around the station resemble the Amarie-class smuggler ship from TNG: "Unification".
3. Alok's Section 31 ship.
4. The Section 31 safehouse garbage scow: a ship of unknown origin and affiliation.
5. San's Terran Empire space limo. Does it have moveable parts?
6. The prolog shows a Terran palace vessel hovering nose-down above Georgiou's family home. The overall shape is close to the ISS Charon of the 2250s. This vessel could be 6.1 Charon class, 6.2 the smaller Styx class or 6.3 a precursor design.
7. The Minosian report mentions the loss of the USS Stratford ten years prior. Thus, this Federation Starfleet ship was lost in 2314. So, it's new that the Minosians are the people of Minos Korva, right?
8. The Nanokin microship. It resembles a microorganism.
9. For the sake of completeness, the platforms from the chase scene.

 

[Commander Richard]

What were all those ships that warped away with the station?

 

[NCC-73515]

From the Ships & Props thread:

There is one single ship connection to previous Trek: The smuggler ship from Unification! Sadly we never see it well.

As far as I can see (which is not much, dammit! XD), they only turned the red lights blue.

The 31 ship

The Scow

San's Terran ship (vaguely similar to La Sirena)

Fuzz seems to have a biological mini ship

And the Charon (?)

 

[Markonian]

What were all those ships that warped away with the station?

That's the Amarie-class smuggler ship. It's welcome to see this design turn back up. (The class name was established in STO).

From the Ships & Props thread:

There is one single ship connection to previous Trek: The smuggler ship from Unification! Sadly we never see it well.

As far as I can see (which is not much, dammit! XD), they only turned the red lights blue.

 

[NCC-73515]

Would it really be named after the ex wife of one later owner?

 

[F. King Daniel]

I honestly thought the station and ships warping away at the end was a gag, like "this is how Trek films end, right?" so they do it with a space station that clearly can't go to warp.

Perhaps I misread the intent.

 

[TimeIsAPredator]

If a station can go to warp then is it not a ship ?

Death Star always annoyed me in that regard too.

Pretty much every ship in this movie was horrendous. No surprise though as Trek hasn't given us a nice ship since Discovery season 1.

 

[NCC-73515]

The Orpheus base went to warp

 

[Tuskin38]

as Trek hasn't given us a nice ship since Discovery season 1.

Wow, how very wrong...

(The class name was established in STO).

Which isn't canon, so I'm not sure why it applies here.

Also in STO lore it wasn't named that until after her Husband's death, so at this point in history it would have no known name.

 

[David cgc]

What were all those ships that warped away with the station?

I guess they all actually worked for Georgiou and weren't customers and visitors like I assumed...?

And the Charon (?)

So many things about this confuse me. Landing nose-first, landing at all, and that the whole reason it's shaped like a big tube is because of Stamets' fancy spore-engine star thing in the middle. Unless they built a big tube-shaped palace-ship first, and then it was just luck that they ended up with a super-generator that happened to need to be in a big open space surrounded by ship.

 

[Tuskin38]

It's not landed, it appears to be floating above the ground.

 

[Tosk]

It's not landed, it appears to be floating above the ground.

Even if it doesn't literally touch the soil, it's hard not to wonder why they bothered to bring it in so close when they beamed down anyway. Is there anyone around to show off for?

 

[Nerys Myk]

1. Baraam: an unaffiliated warp-capable space station of unknown origin in the shape of a flattened, hollowed Terry's Chocolate Orange. It gives me jewelry vibes.

Made me think of the starbase/command badge from TOS.

 

[Michael]

The Scow

It didn’t occur to me when I watched this, but the scow has some similarity to the Corbelan IV from Alien: Romulus. Which is probably not too surprising, because in both cases there were certainly very similar briefings for the art department: a small, ungainly, industrial-looking ship that’s not supposed to look too powerful, pretty and state-of-the-art. It’s interesting that both creative teams landed on asymmetrically offset bridge modules (shades of the Millennium Falcon perhaps?), even though they are on different ends of the ship respectively. And the geometric structure with ribbed texture on the underside is probably supposed to remind of cargo containers.

Made me think of the starbase/command badge from TOS.

Yeah, me too. My wife remarked that those long elliptical structures looked perfect for a long run.

What I still don’t understand is why it warped away at the end. So it’s not a station after all? And why did all surrounding ships seem to warp away with it?

 

[Char Kais]

And the Charon (?)

So many things about this confuse me. Landing nose-first, landing at all, and that the whole reason it's shaped like a big tube is because of Stamets' fancy spore-engine star thing in the middle. Unless they built a big tube-shaped palace-ship first, and then it was just luck that they ended up with a super-generator that happened to need to be in a big open space surrounded by ship.

I took it as a Necromonger ship ("The Chronicles of Riddick") reference.

The Scow

It didn’t occur to me when I watched this, but the scow has some similarity to the Corbelan IV from Alien: Romulus. Which is probably not too surprising, because in both cases there were certainly very similar briefings for the art department: a small, ungainly, industrial-looking ship that’s not supposed to look too powerful, pretty and state-of-the-art. It’s interesting that both creative teams landed on asymmetrically offset bridge modules (shades of the Millennium Falcon perhaps?), even though they are on different ends of the ship respectively. And the geometric structure with ribbed texture on the underside is probably supposed to remind of cargo containers.

It looks very similar Kai's freighter from Zack Snyder's "Rebel Moon".

Similar shape and color palette.
Similar bridge design (cabin on top, with inward angled windows).

 

[Michael]

Also shares some vague similarities with the Batris, the holoship from Insurrection and probably a dozen other sci-fi cargo ships.

I guess at the end of the day there’s only so many ways you can do a design that’s reminiscent of real world cargo freighters.

 

[Crusherclan1701-DEG]

If a station can go to warp then is it not a ship ?

Death Star always annoyed me in that regard too.

Pretty much every ship in this movie was horrendous. No surprise though as Trek hasn't given us a nice ship since Discovery season 1.

What about the Sagan class Stargazer? Or the Duderstadt? Personally I like the Inquiry too but I'm lonely on that opinion. But yes the ships on this "movie" was more star wars with 10% Trek....kinda. They underutilized Michelle Yeoh and really dropped the ball on her backstory, in my uneducated opinion of course. But I like discovery so don't think I'm just a hater.

 

[Tuskin38]

Jörg Hillebrand (@gaghyogi49.bsky.social)

Several black smuggler ships, similar to the one at the Qualor II surplus depot in #StarTrekTNG's "Unification I" (2nd pic), are seen hovering around the Baraam in #StarTrekSection31 (1st pic). They most likely use the model of the ship created by the late, great Fabio Passaro for Eaglemoss (3rd).

bsky.app

 

[NCC-73515]

I guess they all actually worked for Georgiou and weren't customers and visitors like I assumed...?


So many things about this confuse me. Landing nose-first, landing at all, and that the whole reason it's shaped like a big tube is because of Stamets' fancy spore-engine star thing in the middle. Unless they built a big tube-shaped palace-ship first, and then it was just luck that they ended up with a super-generator that happened to need to be in a big open space surrounded by ship.

The background concept was that they captured a planet destroyer doomsday machine ice cream cone thing

 

[Nerys Myk]

Also shares some vague similarities with the Batris, the holoship from Insurrection and probably a dozen other sci-fi cargo ships.

I guess at the end of the day there’s only so many ways you can do a design that’s reminiscent of real world cargo freighters.

Puts me to mind of the Botany Bay