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ST:ENT Relaunch Novels - Trip

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Maybe Christopher will chime in on this, but I was curious as to what we believe the fate of Trip will be. We see from ROF novels that trip is substantially changed from his association with section 31. He still has a connection with various former crewmates -- actually all of them know he's alive, except Hoshi I believe, and still has a deep, albeit long distance, relationship with T'Pol. Referring to an epilog, we're led to believe that some time in the future T'Pol and Trip will settle down and have a family. Given that Trip was killed off in TATV I guess I should be happy that he's still alive, but at least a part of me feels somewhat unsettled that he hasn't resumed his life. Maybe that's just the way it has to be given how the relaunch novels resolved his death -- is his fate to always be in the shadows?
 
Maybe Christopher will chime in on this, but I was curious as to what we believe the fate of Trip will be. We see from ROF novels that trip is substantially changed from his association with section 31. He still has a connection with various former crewmates -- actually all of them know he's alive, except Hoshi I believe, and still has a deep, albeit long distance, relationship with T'Pol. Referring to an epilog, we're led to believe that some time in the future T'Pol and Trip will settle down and have a family. Given that Trip was killed off in TATV I guess I should be happy that he's still alive, but at least a part of me feels somewhat unsettled that he hasn't resumed his life. Maybe that's just the way it has to be given how the relaunch novels resolved his death -- is his fate to always be in the shadows?

Unfortunately, it'd have to be, given that it was never revealed until the fall of Section 31 at some unspecified point in the 25th century that Trip survived. However, we know that he isn't entirely idle, at least. Since you didn't mention Last Full Measure specifically, in case you haven't read it:

we know from Last Full Measure that Trip ends up revealing himself to at least a few others, including Guitierrez and Kemper, and is heavily influential in raising their daughter Elena. Plus, as a result, he's a close family friend of her son (or I suppose potentially grandson) Lawrence Marvick (who you may remember from "Is There In Truth No Beauty"), allowing him to contribute some off-the-books background influence in the design of the Constitution class. If I remember right, there's even an implication that Trip inspired Marvick to go into engineering.
 
Idran, I haven't read Last Full Measure (I think it's the one ENT based book I haven't). I read the spoiler and given some of the detail you've shared I think maybe I'll pick it up. I believe the authors did the first of the relaunch novels and I think they did a fair job -- at the very least they compelled me to continue with the series.

To some extent this path does kind of pigeon-hole Trip as a shadowy character and I guess I'd like to see some personal growth come out of it. But I agree, the situation seems to be a forced conclusion.
 
Idran, I haven't read Last Full Measure (I think it's the one ENT based book I haven't). I read the spoiler and given some of the detail you've shared I think maybe I'll pick it up. I believe the authors did the first of the relaunch novels and I think they did a fair job -- at the very least they compelled me to continue with the series.

Well, just so you don't get too excited, the stuff about Trip was just shown in a framing story; most of the book is set in the span between "The Xindi" and "Anomaly".
 
In To Brave the Storm the story ends with "Twenty-five years later, a journalist attempting to track T'Pol down for an interview catches a glimpse of the officially dead Tucker with her and their two children, posing as the family gardener."
 
In To Brave the Storm the story ends with "Twenty-five years later, a journalist attempting to track T'Pol down for an interview catches a glimpse of the officially dead Tucker with her and their two children, posing as the family gardener."

Thanks... that's the book I was referring to when mentioning an epilog that eludes to Trip and T'Pol having a family.

I like the thought of everything working out in the end for Trip, but such a long time in the shadows is somehow unsettling to me (but it won't keep me from reading the next in the series :techman: ).
 
I don't like Trip in the shadows but it does illustrate how his choice will affect the rest of his life and makes the point about the long shadow Section31 casts.

While I enjoy when everything falls into place and everyone lives happily ever after, I know it is far from how life works; when Trek characters have less than perfect lives it seems more real to me.
 
I don't like Trip in the shadows but it does illustrate how his choice will affect the rest of his life and makes the point about the long shadow Section31 casts.

While I enjoy when everything falls into place and everyone lives happily ever after, I know it is far from how life works; when Trek characters have less than perfect lives it seems more real to me.

Excellent point - and usually that's my preference as well, so I'm at a loss as to explain why I feel unsettled by the continued shadowy existence of Trip. I can only express that I've felt some desire for something... closure isn't the right word, but it's along that line.
 
Last Full Measure has some interesting story details about What happened to Trip is really Intriguing. I'm curious how Christopher Bennett will be Continuing Trip 's story line of working for Section 31 in his next Enterprise upcoming novel Live by the code coming out next year.
 
I'm so looking forward to Rise of the Federation: Live by the Code. The problem with anticipating a book for so long is that when it's released, I read it, and then... another long wait. I have to learn to pace myself when they come out :techman:
 
I'm so looking forward to Rise of the Federation: Live by the Code. The problem with anticipating a book for so long is that when it's released, I read it, and then... another long wait. I have to learn to pace myself when they come out :techman:
Ditto It's definitely a long wait for the new Enterprise novel to come out after you read the latest Enterprise novel Uncertain logic saying to be continued. It's these cliffhanger endings that certainly keep you guessing of what's going to happen your favorite characters in Live by the code.:bolian:
 
Always check the back of a book before you read, if it says "to be continued", then don't read it until the sequel is out :D
 
^Well, I wrote Uncertain Logic and Live by the Code to be self-contained stories that were parts of a larger narrative whole. I've never liked the kind of duology or trilogy that's just one continuous story hacked into pieces by word count alone. If I do a duology or trilogy, it's going to be a story that's made up of the appropriate number of smaller stories, each with its own beginning and end.
 
Destiny springs to mind, I'm not convinced it was 3 independent stories, but certainly it wouldn't go in my own "never liked" pile :D
 
Well, I'd say Destiny breaks down into three distinct phases of the story. Certainly each volume tells a different story in the flashbacks. Also, the installments came out in consecutive months. What annoys me is the sort of trilogy that puts out its volumes a year or more apart and just abruptly stops at the end of a volume without any kind of resolution, making you wait ages for the continuation. If the books come out once a month, then it's not so bad to tell a fairly continuous story; but I feel that if the individual volumes are going to come out a year or two apart, then each one should be reasonably satisfying in and of itself, rather than feeling incomplete.
 
That makes me think that some day, I'd like to see a trilogy that literally broke at the third marks. Mid-sentence, mid-word, maybe even mid-letter. Just for the ridiculousness of it. :p
 
^In strict technical terms, a single continuous story told across three books isn't a trilogy; it's a single book in three volumes. (Like The Lord of the Rings, which was written as a single huge tome but that the publisher insisted on releasing in three smaller parts.) A trilogy is three separate, individually complete books that form a larger sequence.
 
^ One place that cutting up a trilogy did not work that well was the latest New Frontier ebook series. It was clearly just one story they cut in 3 parts.
 
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