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Sovereign class vs Galaxy class

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If comparing a Sovereign to a Dominion War Refit Galaxy class, I think it would be a pretty even match.

There's nothing the Sovereign was designed for that the Galaxy couldn't be equipped for. The Galaxy is a much larger, much more versatile ship. The Sovereign was probably more powerful at launch, but its main reason for existence was to give Starfleet a capital ship that didn't require providing a great deal of additional capacity for families, science facilities... etc.

I think you guys overestimate the level of weapons advancement in a ten year period. Plus you have to consider the fact that a number of advancements that were integrated into the Sovereign from the ground up were quite likely incorporated into flag-carrier ships like the Galaxy as they were being developed.

So, yeah; Draw.
 
There were signs in DS9 that at least some Galaxy class were refit for battle. The Federation probably used the galaxys to early test the future sovereign weapon designs.
 
There were signs in DS9 that at least some Galaxy class were refit for battle. The Federation probably used the galaxys to early test the future sovereign weapon designs.
That was mentioned after the easy destruction of the Odyssey at the hands of the Dominion.
 
I'd put my money on the Sovereign if their crews were evenly matched. 10 years more advanced than the Galaxy and armed with quantum torpedoes and apparantly better phasers. She also seemed to have better manoeuvrability...plus we never saw one fall to a Bird of Prey.

I would also choose the Sovereign class ship as the better ship in battle. However, the Galaxy class Enterprise only fell to a Bird of Prey because the shield frequency was discovered via spying through Gordi's visor. ;)
 
the Odyssey was rammed- there isnt much you can do about that.

Klingon Vor'cha class battlecruisers were vulnerable to ramming too & I think Sovereign class ships would be in a similar problem.
 
This is a pretty common debate.

I'd rather see a discussion about who would win in a battle to the death between Andrew Probert and John Eaves. For the sake of an even battle, they are both armed with lirpas and are fighting an a stadium or colosseum.

Fifty Quatloos on Probert!
 
Sovereign for sure....but it wouldn't be a cakewalk for the Sovereign. The Galaxy is still one tough ship....it would not go easily.
 
I have no problem calling it a draw between a Sovereign and a fully refitted and upgraded Galaxy.
 
the Galaxy has a mean forward torpedo launcher. imagine if the ship was refitted & armed with quantums?
 
Logic... Available information... The history of weapons development and their deployment in the Navies of the world...

Sorry, but anybody capable of rationale thought would never sweepingly say that one class of capital ship would 'wipe the floor' with its immediate predecessor. It's just silly. Modern destroyers couldn't 'wipe the floor' with their World War II era counterparts in close range combat.

I know we're all arguing about the battle prowess of fictitious starships several hundred years in the future, but even so... you can only ignore realities to a point.
 
I would also choose the Sovereign class ship as the better ship in battle. However, the Galaxy class Enterprise only fell to a Bird of Prey because the shield frequency was discovered via spying through Gordi's visor. ;)

Even with its shield negated the E-D should should still have kicked the BoP.

Sovereign is superior, better weapons, quicker, it would wipe the floor with galaxy.

On what information are you basing your assumptions?

Weapons: Galaxy - 12/14 phaser arrays, 2 torpedo launchers
Sovereign - 16 phaser arrays, 10 torpedo launchers included the superior quantum torpedo.

So the Sovereign is better and more heavily armed. While non-canon the Sov is also meant to be armed with Type-XII phaser arrays, while the Galaxy is armed with Type-Xs.

As for how quick it is we have little idea of its top warp speed. However, at impulse the Sovereign is shown to be quite the ballerina, while the galaxy, particularly in DS9 is shown to be more of a lumbering giant.
 
Again; Are your armament statistics based on pre or post Dominion War refit?

Even with its shield negated the E-D should should still have kicked the BoP.

That's one of many reasons why Generations is a horrible movie. And basing your assumptions on events depicted in it is the essence of grasping at straws.
 
Again; Are your armament statistics based on pre or post Dominion War refit?

Stats off MA. The Galaxys we see in the Dominion War would had two extra arrays on the nacelles, so the pre-DW would be 12 arrays/2 launchers and the DW would be 14 arrays/2 launchers.

Even with its shield negated the E-D should should still have kicked the BoP.
That's one of many reasons why Generations is a horrible movie. And basing your assumptions on events depicted in it is the essence of grasping at straws.
You might not like the movie but it happened and its canon.

You had a go at another user for not basing his comment on available information yet you'll just dismiss it if it doesn't gel with your ideas. That's not very fair.
 
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