I don't just find Megan Fox unattractive, I find her hideous. I've never understood the obsession with her.
She May Be Fine But Megan Fox Is A Nutcase!
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No, what I'm saying is that it's perfectly acceptable to admit that a woman is beautiful, even if millions of other people find her beautiful, and actually, even if we don't find her particularly attractive. Posting puke icons or using derogatory terms in association with Megan Fox is not a matter of personal aesthetics, it's simply childish.
If the Genre Babe threads prove anything, it's that guys have deliriously high standards when it comes to female beauty on the internet. I'd really love to see their girlfriends.
It's not really about criminal charges, just perception. People don't react well to men threatening their girlfriends/wives but in reverse it just seems to be a lot more acceptable.
Or sometimes even played for laughs which is sad.
Yep.
Case in point - Tiger Woods being chased out of his home by his wife waving a golf club at him and the months of jokes and parodies that generated.
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I've always had quite a bit of sympathy for your arguments. Anyone interested in exploring gender should acknowledge that men are as bound by its constraints - moreso, in some respects - as women are.
P.S. You're still wrong about Anya.
I'm not drawing any conclusions about Megan Fox based upon her words here. Certainly I don't claim that she's a hair's breadth away from assaulting or murdering her husband. As you say, people say all sorts of things in the heat of the moment. And sometimes they stab people in the heat of the moment too. We just don't have enough information to go on to draw any conclusions and as such are forced to fall back on 'innocent before proven guilty', i.e. not our problem; a void of information that - when it comes to male on female domestic violence - is often described as a 'cone of silence' perpetuating domestic abuse.
My point was the same words, coming from a man, would probably have been received somewhat differently by the media and the general public. The notion of male victims of female aggression is still not taken seriously by society. Of course, a lot of that is perpetuated by men themselves, the notion that no real man could be harmed by a mere woman. And underlying that, usually unspoken, are even uglier assumptions, namely that she is his woman, and thereby that her actions reflect largely upon him, as a child's on their parents. 'So she murdered you? Hell, you probably deserved it.'
Her 2 and 1/2 Men appearance is definitely one of her top 5 hottest moments on screen.
I first saw her on TV was an episode of Hope & Faith. I was channel surfing when I stumbled on this smoking hot young brunette. Mind you I was just right out of HS back then.
Hmm would probably turn out to be like that kid in 2 and 1/2 men.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, of course, even if it's wrong, like yours.
Or as George Carlin said.. Everyone has a right to their opinion.. and I have the right to say your opinion is a pile of shit.
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Nowhere Man
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Everyone knows women are crazy, this is old news. Adam knew it when Eve gave him the apple, but hey, you gotta get laid somehow.
P.S. You're still wrong about Anya.
Well, thanks to her we did get this:
Anya: "We could watch sports of some kind."
Xander: "Uh, I don't know."
Anya: "Men like sports. I'm sure of it."
Xander: "Yes, men like sports. Men watch the action movie. They eat of the beef and enjoy to look at the bosoms. A thousand years of avenging our wrongs, and that's all you've learned?"
I don't think there's ever been a greater weapon against the "Men!
" brigade than that.
I think Megan Fox is an idiot, a bad actress and at best an average-looking woman.
Although it's to my understanding that she's a brilliant Candyland player, so that's kind of cool.
Although it's to my understanding that she's a brilliant Candyland player, so that's kind of cool.
I have no idea who those characters are but that's still
. I've always thought, and still do, that people mean everything they say. No matter when or how. If Megan Fox says she'll kill someone, then she will. If she didn't mean it, SHE WOULDN'T SAY IT!!!
^
Even after all the things you've read around here?
Even after all the things you've read around here?
^ Welcome to my world.
At risk of derailing the thread, Anya is one of two key problems I have with Buffy as a show.
Basically, Anya was a woman named Aud from Sweden in the 9th century. Her husband Olof cheated on her and so she used magic to turn him in to a Troll.
This attracted the attention of a Demon named D'Hoffryn. He grants her the ability to fulfil the wishes of people who have been wronged in the name of vengeance. Of course, these are your standard be careful what you wish for type wishes leading to grossly disproportionate violence and D'Hoffryn somehow feeds off the chaos these cause. He also acts almost like a pimp, with several women like Anya working for him.
Anyanka then spends the next thousand years or so granting wishes exclusively to women who have been wronged by men.
As a result of granting a wish to Cordelia (that Buffy had never come to Sunnydale) she loses her powers and is rendered human, stuck in her 'cover' persona as a teenage girl.
Despite her complete ignorance of how to behave in modern American society, she somehow manages to start a relationship with Xander and they end up engaged. One of her former victims then tricks Xander in to leaving her at the altar. Her blind rage causes D'Hoffryn to offer her her powers back and she accepts.
The second time around, the wishes she grants are somewhat weaker than before. This leads to another Vengeance Demon, Halifrek, calling her 'Soft Serve'. She overcompensates by slaughtering an entire fraternity for the alleged rape of a woman. Although the men are eventually brought back to life, she gives up being a demon once again.
However, it is pointed out to her by Halifrek that her obsession with punishing men who have wronged women is unique and absurd as men are wronged just as often and she is limiting her options.
The key issue here is the portrayal of Anya as a heroic, sympathetic character when we know that she has committed a thousand years worth of horrific, unwarranted, disproportionate violence against men.
Which is why I made the seemingly bizarre reference to 12 Angry Men - that the suspected boy supposedly yelled at his father that he wanted to kill him is a major piece of evidence, but as Fonda observes, just saying something doesn't mean you really mean it. There's another character who holds the opposite position, and well, saying further would be spoiling, wouldn't it?
Now if you always say things you mean, admirable consistency on your part, but the fact remains people do use hyperbole all the time and it's therefore unreasonable to believe people always mean what they say. I've definitely said plenty of stuff I didn't really mean in private, stuff that'd paint me in a far worse light then Fox if taken out of context.
^ I prefer to err on the side of caution; since you can never be sure if someone is joking, would it not be safest to assume they never are? Especially when we're talking about, you know, killing other people and such.
But there's erring on the side of caution (a reasonable stance) and this:
Do you mean to say you did not mean to say what you said?
^ No. I'm an absolutist, though; No shades of gray with me.
Her 2 and 1/2 Men appearance is definitely one of her top 5 hottest moments on screen.
I first saw her on TV was an episode of Hope & Faith. I was channel surfing when I stumbled on this smoking hot young brunette. Mind you I was just right out of HS back then.
Hmm would probably turn out to be like that kid in 2 and 1/2 men.
Megan Fox =
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, of course, even if it's wrong, like yours.
Or as George Carlin said.. Everyone has a right to their opinion.. and I have the right to say your opinion is a pile of shit.
Go through the Redhead thread in the Misc Forum. Every single woman there is farther up the scale than Skanky Megan could ever hope to be.
