Seven of Nine in my opinion is a terrible character

[dave2770]

I know all you voyager fanboys (I love voyager too dont get me wrong) are obsessed with seven. Everyone seems to think Jeri Ryan is a great actress (she's really not), people love the character Seven when in reality shes so annoying and off putting especially during interpersonal or romantic situations. She's always quick to anger and get upset unlike Belanna who's just that way just because. The way she speaks almost as if its so forced and she never seems relaxed is annoying. Furthermore, I dont understand how people find her attractive. She's a 6 at best and her personality brings her down to a 2.

Not sure why she's so beloved. She has absolutely no personality and on top her over the top speech format where she tries to sound logical and speak as if she's superior and intelligent is also annoying. Matter of fact people hate Neelix but Neelix is the better character in Voyager. Remember Living Witness? If Neelix was a tactical officer in an alternate reality he'd be a badass. Anyhow, I just find Seven annoying.

I think people love blondes thats why they love her. I'm married to a beautiful blonde with blue eyes and I understand people prefer blondes but to be with someone because of their looks and tolerate that ridiculous personality I just couldnt handle. If you are attractive but your character and personality sucks and the way you talk is annoying and quickly get angry, upset, and dont understand social interactions Former Borg Drone or not is not my cup of tea.

 

[Gov Kodos]

Huh, that was long.

 

[dave2770]

Huh, that was long.

You can try to ignore my post but seven is imo the most annoying character in Voyager.

Now Kira. Thats a woman

 

[Gov Kodos]

Huh, you should try posting about Kira in the DS9 forum.

 

[CorporalClegg]

I've read worse posts.

Maybe.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

You can try to ignore my post but seven is imo the most annoying character in Voyager.

Do you have anything constructive to contribute to the board besides pointing out in multiple forums that Trek fans annoy you, certain shows annoy you, characters annoy you, and events on the shows annoy you? It's becoming repetitive and it's obvious that your intention is to provoke a negative reaction from people.

 

[KennyB]

The Voyager crew as a whole was pretty annoying to me...I did like Tuvok, and Paris. To me, if they had slowly transformed her from pasty white Borg drone over a season, or at least a few episodes, it would have been much better than the reveal at the end of "The Gift" where she is suddenly the "hot chick in a catsuit" with a couple of throw away lines about stimulating her hair follicles. That part of Berman Trek really stands out, we HAVE to have at least ONE female in a catsuit!!!!!!!! Was so happy when Troi finally got to wear a real uniform.

 

[dave2770]

Do you have anything constructive to contribute to the board besides pointing out in multiple forums that Trek fans annoy you, certain shows annoy you, characters annoy you, and events on the shows annoy you? It's becoming repetitive and it's obvious that your intention is to provoke a negative reaction from people.

I did. I posted today that Voyager really hits home for me (no pun intended) as a show. However what I notice watching Voyager just now or the ST show in general is some of the ridiculous things in it or characters like Seven who are so overrated that it baffles my mind

 

[chris of nine]

So.
There must be something that you like.
I suppose.

 

[Australis]

Watch Jeri Ryan in her half season on 'Leverage' then we'll talk.

 

[Jedman67]

Wasn't she also on Boston Legal? I remember her being an emotionless lawyer, but I don't remember if she was guest or main cast.

This thread annoys me.

 

[Kilana2]

There would be many people who would prefer Kira with long hair instead of short hair. And I like both Seven and Kira. And definitively not because of their physical attractiveness, but because they are strong characters with great stories and moments....

 

[KennyB]

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

Huh, you should try posting about Kira in the DS9 forum.

Oh, you gave him the idea to go over to the DS9 forum. At least he's gone....again. Maybe in another 10 years he'll have it figured out.

 

[Lynx]

I know all you voyager fanboys (I love voyager too dont get me wrong) are obsessed with seven. Everyone seems to think Jeri Ryan is a great actress (she's really not), people love the character Seven when in reality shes so annoying and off putting especially during interpersonal or romantic situations. She's always quick to anger and get upset unlike Belanna who's just that way just because. The way she speaks almost as if its so forced and she never seems relaxed is annoying. Furthermore, I dont understand how people find her attractive. She's a 6 at best and her personality brings her down to a 2.

Not sure why she's so beloved. She has absolutely no personality and on top her over the top speech format where she tries to sound logical and speak as if she's superior and intelligent is also annoying. Matter of fact people hate Neelix but Neelix is the better character in Voyager. Remember Living Witness? If Neelix was a tactical officer in an alternate reality he'd be a badass. Anyhow, I just find Seven annoying.

I think people love blondes thats why they love her. I'm married to a beautiful blonde with blue eyes and I understand people prefer blondes but to be with someone because of their looks and tolerate that ridiculous personality I just couldnt handle. If you are attractive but your character and personality sucks and the way you talk is annoying and quickly get angry, upset, and dont understand social interactions Former Borg Drone or not is not my cup of tea.

I actually agree with Dave here.

OK, I'm a bit biased due to the "Kes case". I must admit that I really hated Seven some years ago, mostly because she replaced Kes but also because I saw her joining the series as some sort of cheap "sex sells" thing and not necessary at all when it comes to making good stories.

In later years, I've become more tolerant when it comes to the character. Since so many people seem to like her, the character must have something, I thought. I also think that Jeri Ryan is an excellent actress. I've seen her in some other roles where she has impressed me more than she did as Seven.

However, I haven't watched Voyager's seasons 4-6 since the beginning of the century and never watched season 7. But I did buy season 4 on DVD a while ago and recently watched all episodes in that season.

Even if I'm more accepting nowasays when it comes to the character and can see some good sides with the character as well, I still can't understand why the character is so popular. In most of the episodes I've watched recently of season 4 I find her very annoying, sometimes downright obnoxious in her relations to her crewmates. I must also admit that I still don't like the over-focus on the character. OK, it was her first season and that might be a reason to give her most of the spotlight but it became actually too much, like when the camera stays more seconds than necessary on her and the habit of showing her up from all possible angles in situations when it wasn't necessary.

Not to mention the catsuit! Was that really necessary?

Voyager fans might like the catsuit but she actually were a laughing stock among fans to other Star Trek series. I remember a friend of mine back then, an ardent TOS and TNG fan who said: "They must really be in trouble when they bring in a character like that."

I see no reason to suddenly make her the star of the show which she remained to the end, other than the concept "sex sells".

The sad thing is that Voyager as a series suffered from that. It became "Star Trek Seven Of Nine" instead of "Star Trek Voyager". Seven became the main star with The Doctor and Janeway as co-stars while the other characters were shoved in the background. That was really a waste of the good characters Voyager had and I do understand why Beltran and Wang were so p***ed off and why Mulgrew was so annoyed of her character being reduced to a second rate character.

 

[Kemaiku]

You know this is a troll thread, right?

 

[Lynx]

You know this is a troll thread, right?

Is it?

I had no idea that it was. I just saw a post in which I agree on some things. if it's a troll thread, then I was really fooled. Maybe because it's well-written. Troll threads are often rude and badly written, like "Voyager s***s, character XXX is ******, blah, blah, blah" and so on.

It won't change what I have written in my post above.

 

[Jedman67]

The troll (thankfully) got booted. I have my reasons to dislike Seven of Nine, but overall, I think her contribution to the show was a positive. Did she have some flawed character development or some poor plotting? Sure, but so did everyone else on the show.
I just wish they'd given her a proper uniform, make her more integrated with the rest of the crew. Or something.

 

[MacLeod]

In real life people can struggle to interact and fit in with others to varying degrees, her being assimilated by the Borg when she was young could be part of the reason for how she comes across as she never learnt how to interact with others.

Do I think they focused on the character of Seven too much, yes.

 

[chris of nine]

She’s a machine. And a foil for every non machine biped on the show.
From time to time, in nuances, she makes an incursion towards her human side. And then, a leap or two.

Sci-fi fanboys like me are big supporters of the machine-becomes-human trope.

When the producers give Ryan a character break, and she plays the comedic side, she delivers.

Just give her a replicator, and cheesecake.

But not Steamed Chadrekab.