Set blueprint exchange

[Redgeneral]

Sorry for the late reply - its been a little chaotic this past week or so.

I saw the two additional auctions, but I decided against adding them due to the same sheets already being in the archive in higher quality.

There has been some progress on the corridor set:

Still trying to figure out the hand rail though

 

[Lt. Washburn]

When you are looking at variations, are you making sure there aren't subtle things like notations that might be different between them?

I have some handrail screencaps that I'll dig up showing their odd profile.

Also, I recently acquired one of the sconces like those in Ten Forward. Since they are used in the corridor lounge area, which you were working on, would you like some dimensions to help recreate that set more completely?

 

[Redgeneral]

Dimensions for the wall sconces would be great - Thank you

 

[Nays]

Does this help with the handrail?

 

[Nays]

Saw another shot that might help.

 

[Lt. Washburn]

That's a good one.

 

[Redgeneral]

I hadn't seen the second screenshot - that is indeed a good one

 

[Redgeneral]

After the unusual concept runabout, I felt it might be a good idea to have a folder on the archive for concept art. This folder will feature images of unrealised concepts or concepts with details that didn't make it to screen.
Folder: http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836

Additions:
Defiant - An early idea was the the defiant would be a beefed up runabout. Scaled up, the cockpit became a full bridge.
Scaled up runabout exterior - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312445299
Scaled up Bridge - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312439978
Valiant concepts - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312447205
More Valiant - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312318913

Cardassian
Cardassian shuttle - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312314626
Cardassian space station - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312313075

Gorn - Could have turned up in TNG
Gorn ship - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312315719

Federation Relay transmitter
http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312320454

Runabout
Cleaner version of previously posted concept - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312797960
Early design with front pod being cockpit and ward room, and utilised as an escape pod if needed - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322345294020
Underside of warp sled attachment - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312791670
Cockpit without transporter pad - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312793881
Rear room - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322312795170

Voyager - These have all been seen before, but these are larger images than most online
Ship exterior 1 (similar to sabre class) - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322313826008
Ship exterior 2 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322313831720
Ship exterior 3 (similar to Oberth class) - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322313827507
A lot of bridge concepts - (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7)
Voyager rooms - infirmary, sickbay, quarters, engineering, conference

Delta flyer
Advanced shuttle - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322340525042

Refit
Aft Bridge - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16322333844188

The sources so far for this folder are https://alphamecha-mkii.tumblr.com/ , http://www.jimmartindesign.co/Movies_Games.php?lang=en&submenu=x&name=Overview , memory alpha , and https://startrekships.tumblr.com/

 

[Lt. Washburn]

This is great, but the pages aren't loading for me. Anyone else having a problem with them?

Also, will this include things like prop concepts? I've always thought there should be a comprehensive collection for that.

 

[Donny]

This is great, but the pages aren't loading for me. Anyone else having a problem with them?

Also, will this include things like prop concepts? I've always thought there should be a comprehensive collection for that.

Not loading on my smartphone at least. Haven’t checked on my PC yet.

 

[Redgeneral]

I think the archive concept art pages should work now - it seems the "hidden" flag got toggled somehow.

Prop concept art is a good idea, so I've made a separate album for those:
Folder: http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322444067940
So far it has:

• Archer's Toy spaceship - elevation drawing
  
• Ferengi gambling machines
• Garak's device from "The Die is Cast"
• Bajoran temple item and Klingon musical instrument
• NX torpedo
• Romulan disruptor (x2)
• Romulan Rifle
• 2009 reboot rifle (x2)
• TNG phaser akin to TOS style two part phaser (x3)
• TNG cobra phaser
• TNG cobra phaser without bend
• TNG "Riot Gun"
• TNG tricorders (x5)
• TNG wrist devices (x3)
• Eaves Phasers (x3) [for ENT?]
• Voyager Rifle
• DS9 away suit
• Exocomp
• Comm badge (circular with embossed delta symbol)
  
• Conspiracy Bloke (can't remember name)

 

[batboy853]

OH if we are doing props, which YAY! let me see what I can find because I've been looking at a lot of those recently.

There are a lot of blink and you miss props blueprints in these videos:

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These props appear throughout TNG and Voyager
https://www.yourprops.com/Medical-I...Trek-The-Next-Generation-TV-1987-YP71225.html

 

[BorgMan]

Y'know, the longer I look at it, the more the beefed up Runabout cockpit seems like a direct inspiration for La Sirena's cockpit area...

Also: that Gorn light cruiser is AWESOME! So much unique lines! Jim Martin's design work really is something else. Even though I like what Eaves has brought us, I keep repeating myself that I find his lines just a bit too much of more along the same design language, whatever the race or supposed time of construction. Can't say that with Martin...

 

[ashleytinger]

Every time I see that concept of the Refit Bridge it reminds me of Alien and the Nostromo.

 

[Redgeneral]

Added another diagram of the Orbital office to the Starfleet folder. This one has annotations.
http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#15415366461389/16324043996576

And now, some more concept art...

The first concept art folder has been renamed from "Concept Art" to "Concept Art - ships and interiors".

New additions:

DS9
Early DS9 station - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324068116494
Consoles (defiant? runabout?) - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324067159980

Enterprise
Unused NX Enterprise 01 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324065568067
Unused NX Enterprise 02 - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324065571321
Source: unknown (found on hard disc)

TNG
Stella cartography A - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324043107486
Stella cartography B - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324043106031
Source: https://haaaaaaaaaaaave-you-met-ted.tumblr.com/tagged/Star-Trek

Conspiracy Parasite - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322444067940/16324039430439
Source: https://haaaaaaaaaaaave-you-met-ted.tumblr.com/image/646604663919132672
Goes with the parent parasite posted earlier (http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322444067940/16322465636080)

Discovery
Shenzou interior - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324041481918
Source: https://haaaaaaaaaaaave-you-met-ted.tumblr.com/image/651276099772416001

Unused ships ST Beyond
Ship 1 A - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324040198710
Ship 1 B - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324040199583
Ship 2 A - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324040200402
Ship 2 B - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324040201471
Unused Vulcan ship - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324040205274
Sources: https://texk.myportfolio.com/star-trek-beyond and https://alphamecha-mkii.tumblr.com/post/663063749168627712

Shuttles
Bajoran scout - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324054359485
Latent image ship - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324055340111
Source: unknown (found on hard disc)

Bajoran raider - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324041799300
DS9 shuttle - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324041864115
Admiral Janeway shuttle interior - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324042023311

ST-V Shuttle - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16322312060836/16324053086604
Source: https://twitter.com/ArtofTrek/status/1335277231409668101
I really like this shuttle design.


And finally another new album "Concept Art - People"
Folder: http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16324033667645

Generations costumes
(unused uniforms, Guinan, Checkov, Kirk, Scotty, and the holodeck uniforms)
Folder: http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16324033667645
Source: https://haaaaaaaaaaaave-you-met-ted...generations-costume-concept-designs-by-robert

Borg
Drone Body - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16324033667645/16324035746289
Drone Face - http://archive.frogland.co.uk/#16324033667645/16324035747458
Source: https://haaaaaaaaaaaave-you-met-ted...trek-the-next-generation-borg-concept-art#_=_

 

[Lt. Washburn]

Awesome! And I've never seen the ST5 shuttle design before. But that brings to mind a question I had recently, who is mostly responsible for the ST5 Galileo/Type-6 shuttle? I've seen what I think were ST5 plans that had side windows like the later Type-6 but aren't on the movie version. And those windows are reminiscent of the Type-7, which had already been designed....so was it Probert? I think Sternbach (though I could be completely wrong) was involved in conceptualizing the modifications to the Type-6. Or was it some other designer that was only working on the movie?

 

[Redgeneral]

Probert didn't work on the ST:V film - he had left Trek after TNG series 1

I've gone through the IMDB credits for the film and the possibilities are

• Herman F. Zimmerman ... Production Design (as Herman Zimmerman)
• Anthony Brockliss ... assistant art director
• Antoinette J. Gordon ... set designer (as Antoinette Gordon)
• Richard McKenzie ... set designer (as Richard Frank McKenzie)
• Andrew Neskoromny ... set designer
• Rick Sternbach ... illustrator
• Sandy Veneziano ... assistant art director (as Sandy L. Veneziano)
• Ron Wilkinson ... set designer (as Ronald R. Wilkinson)

 

[cardinal biggles]

^Also Nilo Rodis-Jamero, who did double duty as art director and costume designer.

As far as the page of mystery DS9 consoles drawn by Doug Drexler, I'm leaning toward the Defiant; the half-circle shape of that one console looks like it could be an early version of the Defiant's conn, and the other consoles have a feel to them that's more Defiant than runabout.

 

[Rekkert]

Eaves' first work in Trek was in V (uncredited, he was very young and technically just a helper to Greg Jein) and he did concept art for the shuttle, as well as the starfleet phaser and the closeup on the Klingon BoP disruptor (all stuff Jein Inc had to build for the movie). This is all on the Art of John Eaves book. It's unclear if he further elaborated from this early concept piece or if someone else did.

EDIT: Okey, the book says that his version of the shuttle got scrapped in favor of a design by Nilo Rodis-Jamero, so I guess that answers that.

Later for TNG, the shuttle got updated by Sternbach following the design he originally intended for the replacement of the Type-7 shuttle which he wanted to do for season 2 (but was rejected due to budget, hence we got the Type-15 pod).

EDIT 2: Sorry, I forgot to add, regarding the Drexler DS9 console, I'm fairly certain it's concept for the added standing console the Runabout set had in season 5.

 

[Lt. Washburn]

I feel like I've seen those concepts before in relation to the late-season standing console on the Runabout.