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Spoilers Sense8 Returns June 8 for Series Finale

How do you rate "Amor Vincit Omnia"?


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I'm not blind to its faults, but most of them can be written off as caused by the truncated storyline and the whole thing is just so uplifting that I honestly don't care. Very very enjoyable.

It is a bit weird that Rajan and Amanita (who are not sensates) had bigger roles in the story than Capheus and Lito, who are. But that both of them led to wonderful queer moments makes it acceptable. It's bad writing that the bald woman just turns up out of the blue and tells the team everything they've been trying to figure out, with no actual action on their parts. But the BPO plot was so tangled and complex that cutting through it with a DEM so we can just get on with the damn thing is probably the only solution in the time they have. Lito, Sun and Capheus's entire season-2 storylines being resolved in phone calls to their sidekicks is weak in the extreme, but at least we can say that they were resolved. Various sensates' "coming out" moments were overlooked and jumped straight past, all rolled into Rajan's reaction, but again - time.

Season 1 saw the sensates figuring out what the hell was happening to them. Season 2 was them figuring out how to work together. Now they are working together, with no hesitation or misunderstanding, and it's thrilling to see.

A review on Queerty (which is generally a terrible, illiterate sensationalistic gay news website, but in this case was surprisingly insightful), explains how the entire series, from beginning to end, is one big metaphor for the queer experience. Quite aside from the fact that it has so many queer characters (indeed, the most healthy, happy relationship in the whole thing is same-sex, trans and interracial, and provides the big romantic conclusion to the entire series), the storyline itself tells people what it is like to live queer.

You realise you are one of a 'slightly different species' of human, like everyone else on the surface but with something different inside. That one thing that is different connects you with other people all over the planet who share it, despite that you have nothing else in common. You try to hide your difference from those closest to you, or eventually "come out" to them. Gradually you learn to embrace and enjoy your difference, revel in it. But there are divisions within the "community". Some, like the Mother's group, just keep their heads down so as not to cause trouble. Some, like Whispers' group, actively work with those who hate their own kind. Some, like Lila's group, play both sides against the middle to save themselves. And some, like our Eight, use their difference to, well, make a difference. To make things better for their own kind. Until finally, hopefully, the bad sides of the equation are removed and everyone can just be happy in a big multi-racial, multi-sexual, multi-gender mash-up of love. With a rainbow strap-on.

I never expected that the Wolfgang-Kala-Rajan triangle would literally end up being a triangle, but it's the surprisingly obvious, non-heteronormative answer and it was wonderful to see. If I'm not mistaken, Lito and Hernandez invited Daniela into their bed as well at the end, showing that openness can come from the gay said as well as the straight side. Everything was a such mass of bodies that you couldn't even tell the difference - which is ultimately the point. And ending on that iconic image of that glistening rainbow strap-on, the symbol of love, sex, diversity, happiness.

As I say, not blind to its faults, but equally, don't care. Happy Pride everyone!

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I'm not blind to its faults, but most of them can be written off as caused by the truncated storyline and the whole thing is just so uplifting that I honestly don't care. Very very enjoyable.

It is a bit weird that Rajan and Amanita (who are not sensates) had bigger roles in the story than Capheus and Lito, who are. But that both of them led to wonderful queer moments makes it acceptable. It's bad writing that the bald woman just turns up out of the blue and tells the team everything they've been trying to figure out, with no actual action on their parts. But the BPO plot was so tangled and complex that cutting through it with a DEM so we can just get on with the damn thing is probably the only solution in the time they have. Lito, Sun and Capheus's entire season-2 storylines being resolved in phone calls to their sidekicks is weak in the extreme, but at least we can say that they were resolved. Various sensates' "coming out" moments were overlooked and jumped straight past, all rolled into Rajan's reaction, but again - time.

Season 1 saw the sensates figuring out what the hell was happening to them. Season 2 was them figuring out how to work together. Now they are working together, with no hesitation or misunderstanding, and it's thrilling to see.

A review on Queerty (which is generally a terrible, illiterate sensationalistic gay news website, but in this case was surprisingly insightful), explains how the entire series, from beginning to end, is one big metaphor for the queer experience. Quite aside from the fact that it has so many queer characters (indeed, the most healthy, happy relationship in the whole thing is same-sex, trans and interracial, and provides the big romantic conclusion to the entire series), the storyline itself tells people what it is like to live queer.

You realise you are one of a 'slightly different species' of human, like everyone else on the surface but with something different inside. That one thing that is different connects you with other people all over the planet who share it, despite that you have nothing else in common. You try to hide your difference from those closest to you, or eventually "come out" to them. Gradually you learn to embrace and enjoy your difference, revel in it. But there are divisions within the "community". Some, like the Mother's group, just keep their heads down so as not to cause trouble. Some, like Whispers' group, actively work with those who hate their own kind. Some, like Lila's group, play both sides against the middle to save themselves. And some, like our Eight, use their difference to, well, make a difference. To make things better for their own kind. Until finally, hopefully, the bad sides of the equation are removed and everyone can just be happy in a big multi-racial, multi-sexual, multi-gender mash-up of love. With a rainbow strap-on.

I never expected that the Wolfgang-Kala-Rajan triangle would literally end up being a triangle, but it's the surprisingly obvious, non-heteronormative answer and it was wonderful to see. If I'm not mistaken, Lito and Hernandez invited Daniela into their bed as well at the end, showing that openness can come from the gay said as well as the straight side. Everything was a such mass of bodies that you couldn't even tell the difference - which is ultimately the point. And ending on that iconic image of that glistening rainbow strap-on, the symbol of love, sex, diversity, happiness.

As I say, not blind to its faults, but equally, don't care. Happy Pride everyone!

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Great post!
 
A review on Queerty (which is generally a terrible, illiterate sensationalistic gay news website, but in this case was surprisingly insightful), explains how the entire series, from beginning to end, is one big metaphor for the queer experience. Quite aside from the fact that it has so many queer characters (indeed, the most healthy, happy relationship in the whole thing is same-sex, trans and interracial, and provides the big romantic conclusion to the entire series), the storyline itself tells people what it is like to live queer.

You realise you are one of a 'slightly different species' of human, like everyone else on the surface but with something different inside. That one thing that is different connects you with other people all over the planet who share it, despite that you have nothing else in common. You try to hide your difference from those closest to you, or eventually "come out" to them. Gradually you learn to embrace and enjoy your difference, revel in it. But there are divisions within the "community". Some, like the Mother's group, just keep their heads down so as not to cause trouble. Some, like Whispers' group, actively work with those who hate their own kind. Some, like Lila's group, play both sides against the middle to save themselves. And some, like our Eight, use their difference to, well, make a difference. To make things better for their own kind. Until finally, hopefully, the bad sides of the equation are removed and everyone can just be happy in a big multi-racial, multi-sexual, multi-gender mash-up of love. With a rainbow strap-on.
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Excellent post. Particularly,
You realise you are one of a 'slightly different species' of human, like everyone else on the surface but with something different inside. That one thing that is different connects you with other people all over the planet who share it, despite that you have nothing else in common. You try to hide your difference from those closest to you, or eventually "come out" to them. Gradually you learn to embrace and enjoy your difference, revel in it.
Being hetero, it's hard to really imagine what it's like... and I have to say, this series seems to enlighten. I don't know how accurate a depiction it is, but it's certainly nothing like anything I've ever seen before.

I have to admit, I didn't know where this series was going to go when I started watching it a few weeks ago (and didn't read up on it first--just wanted to experience it unprepared). There were parts rather uncomfortable to take (e.g. Lito), because of hetero social conditioning. But in time, that faded away. And I'm someone who has several gay friends. This is a must-see series for anyone. The relationships are beautifully written. The tensions are so believable. This is a real artful work capturing humanity in all its glories and horrors.

I haven't seen the finale yet, but will probably get there sometime next week. I'm sad that this series had to end prematurely, but hopeful the finale wraps things up so there's not too much dangling or rushed past plausibility.
 
I rewatched the finale. The scene with Nomi and her mom really got to me for personal reasons. Nomi meant a lot to me, she was the first time I ever got to see a character who was like me. I had never gotten it before and I won't go into details, but she probably saved my life.
 
I rewatched the finale. The scene with Nomi and her mom really got to me for personal reasons. Nomi meant a lot to me, she was the first time I ever got to see a character who was like me. I had never gotten it before and I won't go into details, but she probably saved my life.

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I rewatched the finale. The scene with Nomi and her mom really got to me for personal reasons. Nomi meant a lot to me, she was the first time I ever got to see a character who was like me. I had never gotten it before and I won't go into details, but she probably saved my life.
I love Nomi a lot but I *hated* the scene with her mom getting high and supposedly changing her attitude like that. Unless there was something way different from pot in those brownies, it made no sense to me at all. But I did love seeing the fairies again!
 
I love Nomi a lot but I *hated* the scene with her mom getting high and supposedly changing her attitude like that. Unless there was something way different from pot in those brownies, it made no sense to me at all. But I did love seeing the fairies again!

I was similarly unsure on that scene - it seemed to be implying that the only way Nomi's mother could come to accept her trans daughter was by being drugged into it, and that once the drugs wore off, she'd be back to being horrible.

In order to make it better then, we could perhaps see it as the mother (whose name I can't remember) being so uptight and waspish that her objections were all in the style of "But what will people think?" That perhaps deep down, she did love her child, but was more concerned with image and appearances and how her conservative social group would perceive the 'embarrassment' of having a trans daughter. She did walk in saying "Trust Michael to make a big fuss out of something that should be solemn" so that was her greatest concern. And the pot brownies allowed her to set that aside and let the love for her daughter that was always inside her out into the open.

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It doesn't work that way in real life. My parents keep their transphobia to a minimum when sober, but let their inhibitions down like that and it starts getting a lot scarier.
 
It doesn't work that way in real life. My parents keep their transphobia to a minimum when sober, but let their inhibitions down like that and it starts getting a lot scarier.

I'm sorry to hear that.
*clusterhugs all around*
 
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