Sarek: Spock married?

[tim0122]

Just watched the episode Sarek. In the opening dialogue, Picard says he met Sarek once at Sarek's son's wedding. Since a third son has never been retconned (and certainly wasn't by this point), Picard has to be referring to Spock. I've briefly Googled Spock and Sarek and searched their Memory Alpha bios, and I can't even find a reference to this line.

Does any other Trek show reference Spock getting married? I don't recall it being mentioned again. Was it simply ignored, forgotten, or not brought up later because it wasn't relevant? It's such a casually said line, after all.

I find it so odd for even geeky Trek sites to not even mention it, even if it was ignored/retconned later.

 

[FredH]

Just watched the episode Sarek. In the opening dialogue, Picard says he met Sarek once at Sarek's son's wedding. Since a third son has never been retconned (and certainly wasn't by this point), Picard has to be referring to Spock. I've briefly Googled Spock and Sarek and searched their Memory Alpha bios, and I can't even find a reference to this line.

Does any other Trek show reference Spock getting married? I don't recall it being mentioned again. Was it simply ignored, forgotten, or not brought up later because it wasn't relevant? It's such a casually said line, after all.

I find it so odd for even geeky Trek sites to not even mention it, even if it was ignored/retconned later.

It was wasn’t mentioned again, iirc. A common fan assumption is that he eventually married Saavik, but that’s never been confirmed onscreen. (Looking back from 2025 this is maybe a little uncomfortable due to the age difference, but eh.)

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Give it time; they'll give Sarek another son/godson/stepson/adopted son.

 

[BillJ]

Spock marries Christine Chapel after giving her the de-aging serum Admiral Jameson croaked on in “Too Short a Season”.

It will be a very special episode of CBS Trek. A valentine to the fans…

 

[Qonundrum]

Nice find!

Chances are it was a scripting oversight or boo-boo, or a cozy yet quiet tie-in to TFF because... reasons... Also, and unbeknownst to Kirk, Sarek had not just Sybok as a sibling, but there's an identical sibling named Spirk, another named Spark, yet another named Sardonyk, and - of course - little cousin Spork. Amusingly, only "Sybok" and one other name fail the spellchecker component, for which it's not "Spirk" and I've no clue what that work is supposed to mean.

But, wow, what if Picard was referencing Sybok and Sybok going all road and emotioney was kept quiet?

 

[BillJ]

Could be that the God entity spit Sybok out at some point. After that experience, Sybok decided it was better to sell real estate in the Vulcan equivalent of Palm Springs.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Chances are it was a scripting oversight or boo-boo, or a cozy yet quiet tie-in to TFF because... reasons..

More likely neither one.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

I have the first edition of The Next Generation Companion by Larry Nemecek (the one with the blue cover that goes up to the fifth season), and in the background portion of the making of the episode 'Sarek', it was going to be made explicit that Picard attended the wedding of Spock, but it was decided to leave it vague, to leave open the possibility of another son of Sarek.

 

[BillJ]

I have the first edition of The Next Generation Companion by Larry Nemecek (the one with the blue cover that goes up to the fifth season), and in the background portion of the making of the episode 'Sarek', it was going to be made explicit that Picard attended the wedding of Spock, but it was decided to leave it vague, to leave open the possibility of another son of Sarek.

Maybe in that timeline Michael Burnham was male.

*runs*

 

[Michael]

Actually I see no reason why Sarek shouldn’t have had another son with Perrin, whose marriage Picard could have referred to.

But what I like even more is the possibility of Spock and Chapel getting married late in her life at a point in time where a very young Picard could have attended. I reckon she would have been in her eighties when Picard was a cadet.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Actually I see no reason why Sarek shouldn’t have had another son with Perrin, whose marriage Picard could have referred to.

But what I like even more is the possibility of Spock and Chapel getting married late in her life at a point in time where a very young Picard could have attended. I reckon she would have been in her eighties when Picard was a cadet.

Joanna Miles and Patrick Stewart are roughly the same age. It seems unlikely that Perrin could have been old enough to have had an adult son when Picard was a young and freshly minted lieutenant.

I much prefer the Chapel scenario.

 

[The Wormhole]

That episode aired a year after we learn Spock had a brother and in recent years we've learned he also had a sister. There's absolutely no reason why Sarek couldn't have had another son we've as yet heard nothing about.

 

[BillJ]

That episode aired a year after we learn Spock had a brother and in recent years we've learned he also had a sister. There's absolutely no reason why Sarek couldn't have had another son we've as yet heard nothing about.

Beyond being tedious and unimaginative?

 

[The Wormhole]

Beyond being tedious and unimaginative?

Being tedious and unimaginative made Terry Matalas a canonized saint while he's still living.

 

[Phoenix219]

Maybe in that timeline Michael Burnham was male.

*runs*

Her named is Michael. She could have transitioned?

And who knows what happened to Michael in this timeline. Its before the rewrite that created the ENT-Discoverse. She could be doing anything.

 

[Phoenix219]

Actually I see no reason why Sarek shouldn’t have had another son with Perrin, whose marriage Picard could have referred to.

But what I like even more is the possibility of Spock and Chapel getting married late in her life at a point in time where a very young Picard could have attended. I reckon she would have been in her eighties when Picard was a cadet.

And has since passed away, giving Spock the freedom to run away on a suicide mission to Romulus. She's gone, Jim's gone... Bones may have even passed since Farpoint. What does Spock have to lose?

 

[Phoenix219]

Being tedious and unimaginative made Terry Matalas a canonized saint while he's still living.

I think you misspelled "Awesome and resourceful."

The Genesis II/Kirk in stasis made up for a lot, and can't be understated, for me personally anyways.

 

[BillJ]

Her named is Michael. She could have transitioned?

Why? Multiverse is vast. Just in that timeline the character is male. How they got to that point is really unimportant.

 

[DarrenTR1970]

This comes from the episode Unification, Part 1

RIKER: How well do you know Spock?
PICARD: I met him once. What I know of him comes from history books, and of course my mind meld with his father.

So, Picard and Spock met once before Unification. It could have been at Spock's wedding. The issue isn't brought up when Picard meets Spock on Romulus.​

 

[Phoenix219]

Why? Multiverse is vast. Just in that timeline the character is male. How they got to that point is really unimportant.

I don't believe its a multiverse. Just one timeline that is rewritten. If no one else's genetics are being changed, then hers wouldn't either. I was just going along with the joke.

I like the "god entitiy spitting Sybok back out" even better, but I'm sure the reality of it is just a reference to Spock, with a human wife that has since passed. I don't think he would have gone off on the Romulus missions if he had a wife and/or family at home to worry about.