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Romulan warbird systems

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So I’ve been rewatching some Romulan themed episodes recently and thinking about the warbird systems. I’ve often wondered what the full armament would be, with various sources having different configurations.

According to Andrew Probert, the official weaponry is ten disruptors (one on each “cheek”, one on each side of the tail, one on each aft wing surface (four total, two dorsal and two ventral) and another pair at the dorsal apex. There’s also a torpedo tube on the “nape” of the forward section.

In addition to those locations, we saw the warbirds firing from the nose position (which Andrew mainly intended as a deflector), from a central hull disruptor in “Contagion,” and from a dorsal turret behind the command section in “Unification II.” (destroying the Vulcan invasion troops). Given that the Klingon Bird of Prey also has a combined deflector/torpedo mount (as described in some sources like the Haynes manual), I could see the warbird having such a design as well.

The Playmates warbird suggested that the twelve “notches” on the forward wing surfaces (flanking the neck boom, and behind the vents on the ventral wing) were additional disruptor banks, though I could also see them as torpedo launchers. FASA’s TNG Officer’s Manual has an A and a B model, with the later designation being canonically referenced in TNG. The art is a bit inaccurate as the FASA warbird lacks the tail fin and instead extends the wings back, but it’s possible this could be regarded as the A model, which FASA says is apparently being withdrawn from service and replaced/refitted with B types. It's tempting to speculate the A-type vessels could have been the ones fought by the Enterprise-C at Narendra III.

For weaponry, FASA has the following configurations:

A type warbird:

6x RPW-G plasma banks (2 forward, 4 port/starboard) and 4x RTA-C torpedo launchers (4 p/s)
200 troops

B type warbird:

10x RWW-H disruptors, 360 degree coverage and 6x RTA-E torpedo launchers (4p/s, 2 aft)
300 troops

It’s also well known that the Romulans used artificial quantum singularities as a power source in place of a conventional warp core, although it’s debatable whether this system is actually any better or more ideal than a standard system.

Troi comments in “Timescape” that the singularity can’t normally be shut down once it’s activated, which would seem like a safety flaw, and “Face of the Enemy” says that even a slight miscalculation in the emissions could show throw the cloak as a magnetic disturbance, with the risk of detection increasing if the warbird was traveling at higher speeds (warp 6+).

“Tin Man” establishes that the top speed of a warbird under optimal conditions is a bit slower than that of a Galaxy class. Indeed, the first of the two warbirds (the one destroyed by Tin Man) had to pump so much energy into its drive system that it suffered irreparable damage to the warp drive, making it difficult to return home, and the excess power also shone through the cloak periodically and let the Enterprise be aware of the Romulans to a degree.
 
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This is what the D'Deridex should've been, but due to budget / CG limitations at the time, only now can we see the true might of a D'Deridex.

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The Winged Defender as well should be the equivalent to the Klingon "Bird of Prey".
 
TBH, I never liked the seemingly huge scale of the warbird when it was first seen in "The Neutral Zone" relative to the Galaxy class. It just seemed ridiculously huge and not as good looking as when later episodes seemed to show the two on a more similar scale, but YMMV. ;)
 
TBH, I never liked the seemingly huge scale of the warbird when it was first seen in "The Neutral Zone" relative to the Galaxy class. It just seemed ridiculously huge and not as good looking as when later episodes seemed to show the two on a more similar scale, but YMMV. ;)
I'm fond of the Giant Size myself, it's quite menacing.
 
Maybe I'd feel differently if the warbird didn't sometimes have scaling issues like other ships, and the larger size was more intentionally kept. :rommie: But for me that sort of size works better for designs like the Dominion battleships.
 
Maybe I'd feel differently if the warbird didn't sometimes have scaling issues like other ships, and the larger size was more intentionally kept. :rommie: But for me that sort of size works better for designs like the Dominion battleships.

I have no issue with the D'Deridex being that large.

I just wish we got to see more ships OTHER than the D'Deridex during TNG's run.

It's like the Romulans went BattleShip crazy and thought every solution needed a BattleShip to solve it.

That's not very practical or cost effective for the resources allocated.

And the Romulans are supposed to be somewhat logical, you would think their Fleet Doctrine would have a more balanced Fleet size & # of ships that tend towards more smaller ships than bigger ones.

A D'Deridex is supposed to be a valued posting / captaincy.

But it loses value if you mass produce it as the mainline ship.

And given it's FirePower / Size, it looks foolish to have your "Main Ship" consume so many resources.

It's like it's own version of the Tarkin Doctrine from Star Wars.
 
Most of it is empty space. That got me thinking it was a carrier...with individual weapons batteries between the upper and lower hulls---rather like how SFBs Andomedans carried sub-ships. The Warbird stays cloaked and provides shields---the monitors can devote all power to weapons.

Now, there are square "intakes" to either side of the lower hull--and torpedoes were seen coming from those in one episode.
The topmost spine fired a beam that destroyed the troop ships from Reunification.

Now, I only heard Quark talk about Romulan plasma torpedoes. I might have had only those come from the nose. What we saw in Tin Man is how I envision the ISC plasmatic pulsars, just slower.
 
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