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'Relics'

IMO ''Relics'' is just an average TNG-episode. Nice done, but ''Clues'', ''Yesterday's Enterprise'' and ''Tapestry'' are still from another planet.
 
I think most fans don't have a problem with technobabble except when it 1) takes the place of story, 2) isn't internally consistent, 3) becomes more babble than techno.

Scotty's use of it in GEN was distracting because he never used it to that extent before. One imagines, to make the Trek universe cohesive...because the Trek tech didn't really start being put together in some detail till long after TOS, that Scotty knew the lingo but just didn't use it...either personally or the people of his time didn't so much.

Regarding the captain not needing to be spoken to in tech terms, I don't think I agree. The more people who know how a problem is being tackled, the more can give constructive input. That's not to say a visiting cadet should need give his two cents on what the chief engineer is doing, but it doesn't help the chief engineer to keep everyone in the dark or shoulder the responsibility for everything himself.
 
It didn't seem like technobabble to me. He really understands that stuff.

Anybody ever been to one of James Doohan's lectures on how the Enterprise's engines work?
 
Watched it today. Very, very sad episode chronicling one of the last adventures of a current has been. It was the meanest I have ever heard Geordi talk to anyone, but it was kind of warranted to a degree. I liked Picard and Scotty drinking that whiskey on the holodeck creation of the TOS Enterprise bridge. Good scene.
 
I think most fans don't have a problem with technobabble except when it 1) takes the place of story, 2) isn't internally consistent, 3) becomes more babble than techno.

True.

In TNG I dodn't have a big problem with the Technobabble, most of time it "made sense" as it seemed the writers, advisiors or maybe event he actors had an "understanding" of how the fictional technology works. And while at times the technobabble is used to solve a crisis usually those aren't the key focus of the story and/or the solution isn't "simple."

Take, for example, "A Matter of Time" or even "Deja Q" where technobabble is used to sovle a problem (the deflector dish in the former the tractor beam in the latter) but neither of those problems were the "problems of the week" they were just backdrop to the main story (the time traveler and Q losing his powers) so it doesn't matter technobabble was used to solve the problem as the problem wasn't the story.

Voyager, OTOH, has the problem of the week AS the story and then used Seven's nanoprobes, the deflector dish, the transporter or whatever to solve the story. THAT is lame and lazy.

So in Relics even though some technobabble from Scotty and Geordi is used to solve the problem, the problem they solve isn't the story (the story mostly being Scotty discovering that even as an aging man considering retirment and way out of his leage with current technology, he's still worth something.)
 
I think most fans don't have a problem with technobabble except when it 1) takes the place of story, 2) isn't internally consistent, 3) becomes more babble than techno.

True.

In TNG I dodn't have a big problem with the Technobabble, most of time it "made sense" as it seemed the writers, advisiors or maybe event he actors had an "understanding" of how the fictional technology works. And while at times the technobabble is used to solve a crisis usually those aren't the key focus of the story and/or the solution isn't "simple."

Take, for example, "A Matter of Time" or even "Deja Q" where technobabble is used to sovle a problem (the deflector dish in the former the tractor beam in the latter) but neither of those problems were the "problems of the week" they were just backdrop to the main story (the time traveler and Q losing his powers) so it doesn't matter technobabble was used to solve the problem as the problem wasn't the story.

Voyager, OTOH, has the problem of the week AS the story and then used Seven's nanoprobes, the deflector dish, the transporter or whatever to solve the story. THAT is lame and lazy.

So in Relics even though some technobabble from Scotty and Geordi is used to solve the problem, the problem they solve isn't the story (the story mostly being Scotty discovering that even as an aging man considering retirment and way out of his leage with current technology, he's still worth something.)

Very good. Keen observation. Rock on, DrummerBoy.
 
A little technical dialogue - a very little - is not a bad thing only because it lends some plausibility and color to the situation. Technobabble as it came to be used in the modern Trek shows is a waste of time, a way of filling space in a scene that could be better used. It's nearly automatic writing. There is no reason to care about any of it.
 
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